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I don't think anyone can churn out, overnight an entire new line of products, while simultaneously scrapping their old line. I think it would be wiser to work w

I don't think anyone can churn out, overnight an entire new line of products, while simultaneously scrapping their old line. I think it would be wiser to work with Shell to see if their timeline can be compressed, their investments expanded etc. rather then throwing out unreasonable demands.

berkes 5y ago
> I don't think anyone can churn out, overnight an entire new line of products, while simultaneously scrapping their old line. If you cannot adjust to clearly visible, external requirements or demands, you honestly don't deserve to be kept in business. Everyone knows fossils are at a dead end. Shell has known this for over 60 years now; they acknowledge that themselves! Requiring the change that apparently a corporate moloch is not able to make themselves is neither unreasonable nor overnight. As I point out elsewhere in this thread: competition manages fine to pivot to renewable fuels (diesel, ethanol, kerozine etc) and beyond that, in far less time, as can be seen in action with e.g. Neste Oyi
- FridayoLeary 5y ago
  >Everyone knows fossils are at a dead end If that is true Shell should die naturally. Images of stranded fish, flopping and gasping for breath springs to mind. This court order indicates otherwise. I'm under no illusions that orders like this won't hurt me in a real way. And i am not a fan at all of EV's in their current format. Despite (what i perceive) propaganda (NOT a negative connotation, mind you) to the contrary, i don't think they are mature enough to replace ICE. Slightly off topic but i'm a huge fan of those electric scooters and bikes. I think they are the way forward, not some huge EV. They should definitely be made legal, anyway everyone uses them. I just have a depressing feeling that they shall be slaughtered, hamstrung and/ or castrated on the altar of pedestrian safety.
- kokanator 5y ago
  >If you cannot adjust to clearly visible, external requirements or demands, you honestly don't deserve to be kept in business. There are 1.4 Billion cars in the world. They are obviously focused on the demand. [0] https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-advice/how-many-cars-are-there-in-the-world-70629 https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-advice/how-many-cars-are-th...
KptMarchewa 5y ago
They were poisoning planet for decades, so now we have to pay them to find other business.

berkes 5y ago

> I don't think anyone can churn out, overnight an entire new line of products, while simultaneously scrapping their old line. If you cannot adjust to clearly visible, external requirements or demands, you honestly don't deserve to be kept in business. Everyone knows fossils are at a dead end. Shell has known this for over 60 years now; they acknowledge that themselves! Requiring the change that apparently a corporate moloch is not able to make themselves is neither unreasonable nor overnight. As I point out elsewhere in this thread: competition manages fine to pivot to renewable fuels (diesel, ethanol, kerozine etc) and beyond that, in far less time, as can be seen in action with e.g. Neste Oyi

FridayoLeary 5y ago
>Everyone knows fossils are at a dead end If that is true Shell should die naturally. Images of stranded fish, flopping and gasping for breath springs to mind. This court order indicates otherwise. I'm under no illusions that orders like this won't hurt me in a real way. And i am not a fan at all of EV's in their current format. Despite (what i perceive) propaganda (NOT a negative connotation, mind you) to the contrary, i don't think they are mature enough to replace ICE. Slightly off topic but i'm a huge fan of those electric scooters and bikes. I think they are the way forward, not some huge EV. They should definitely be made legal, anyway everyone uses them. I just have a depressing feeling that they shall be slaughtered, hamstrung and/ or castrated on the altar of pedestrian safety.
kokanator 5y ago
>If you cannot adjust to clearly visible, external requirements or demands, you honestly don't deserve to be kept in business. There are 1.4 Billion cars in the world. They are obviously focused on the demand. [0] https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-advice/how-many-cars-are-there-in-the-world-70629 https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-advice/how-many-cars-are-th...

KptMarchewa 5y ago

They were poisoning planet for decades, so now we have to pay them to find other business.