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presumably this is an example of a rich person (used to deference) having to interact with a community that doesn't care at all that he has money meanwhile the
by blibble 5y ago
presumably this is an example of a rich person (used to deference) having to interact with a community that doesn't care at all that he has money
meanwhile the sycophants on his payroll are no doubt telling him he's doing a grand job
- pdimitar 5y agoCan you give a bit more background on this? Who is the new owner, how did the takeover even happen? Wasn't Freenode a non-profit org?
- blibble 5y agothis has been extensively covered over the last week or so
- pdimitar 5y agoI mean OK, but I don't live in HN (or any news outlet for that matter) so it's not such an unfair question.
- r721 5y agoOne of many articles: https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ev8y/freenode-open-source-korea-crown-prince-takeover https://www.vice.com/en/article/m7ev8y/freenode-open-source-...
- pdimitar 5y agoThanks, that helped a lot.
- cpach 5y agoTL;DR: A while ago some dude with questionable motives and ethics gained control over Freenode and recently he started to actively destroy it. This could be a good starting point for further reading: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastMonth&page=0&prefix=true&query=freenode&sort=byDate&type=story https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastMonth&page=0&prefix=tr...
- wongarsu 5y agoAndrew Lee is the co-founder of one of the biggest VPNs, which he sold for $95 Million. After that he was involved in the mobile app of Mt Gox (the now defunct bitcoin exchange) He was also declared crown prince of Korea by a member of royalty (no, Korea doesn't have Emperors anymore, it's meaningless for practical purposes).
- hatsunearu 5y agolmao, read up on this "member of royalty" Lee Seok, he's kind of a prick. Basically goes around and swinging his "heritage" and generally being unpleasant to everyone around him.
- clarge1120 5y agoThis looks like Culture War. From "The Freenode Resignation FAQ" at https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409/ https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af4... > [The new Freenode owner] Andrew was repeatedly asked in the "policy discussion channel" whether slurs, racism and transphobia are now permitted on Freenode. No answer has been forthcoming. The new owner either will not answer, or will not take a side, in the Culture War. In response, a number of users have taken his non-answers as an answer, and are leaving.
- shkkmo 5y agoNot at all This is about ownership and control. Andrew is trying to seize legal control over an organization run by volunteers. The volunteers (and everyone else) aren't happy with the way this was handled or the way Andrew is using his power to silence dissent.
- joshuaissac 5y agoAndrew Lee has had legal control over Freenode since 2017. He gave assurances to the volunteers that he would not try to assume operational control. He affirmed that commitment as late as a few months ago. Now he has gone against that.
- shkkmo 5y agoAFAIK, the only thing Andrew unambiguously had legal ownership over was the domain names.
- lonjil 5y agoThose questions came after people started leaving, and after Lee made changes to freenode policy removing mentions of racism and such.
- zmatt 5y agoThis article also has some interesting background info on Lee and his motivations: https://hackaday.com/2021/05/20/freenode-debacle-prompts-staff-exodus-new-network/ https://hackaday.com/2021/05/20/freenode-debacle-prompts-sta...