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What is impressive of "facing bullets" if there are smarter and more effective ways? In Tunisia they down'd the gov't, that is what matters. Judging, from the

by yaix 15y ago

What is impressive of "facing bullets" if there are smarter and more effective ways? In Tunisia they down'd the gov't, that is what matters. Judging, from the comfort of one's sofa, what is a more "impressive" way to do it, is hardly helpful or "impressive" itself. Getting things done, is.

ChuckMcM 15y ago
Perhaps the difference is subtle. Members of the Air Forces have been known to take abuse for being 'above' the fight. Once they blow up a building its really up to troops on the ground to finish the fight. Similarly with the Arab spring, while it is undoubtedly helpful to disrupt the Government's use of and interference in , the Internet, it's the people who are willing to stand up and say "Here is the new way to run our country and I am willing to give my life to that ideal." who impress me more. Just like it is more impressive (or makes more of an impact on me) when someone in the US chooses to actually serve in Government to fix it, or invests their time and energies in revitalizing the institutions that allow it to change to the will of the people. In the original article Sabu states "When Tunisia filtered off its internet from the world, it was the Tunisians who came online using dial-up and literally allowed us to use their connections to tunnel through to re-deface the prime minister's websites. It was the most impressive thing I've seen: a revolution coinciding both physically and online. It was the first time I had proof that what Anonymous was doing was real and it was working." I may be too old or too out of touch to appreciate how significant 'defacing the prime minister's website' was to the overall effort. When Khalid went to Egypt and stood in the square and rallied people to support the overthrowing of the corrupt government there I thought, "Here is a guy who is willing to put his life on the line for a cause he believes in." And I felt a great deal of respect for that. When Sabu mentions how great is was that Tunisians created dialup gateways that subverted the government infrastructure and they went in and scribbled on the Prime Minister's website, it just wasn't very impressive to me.

by yaix 15y ago

ChuckMcM 15y ago

Perhaps the difference is subtle. Members of the Air Forces have been known to take abuse for being 'above' the fight. Once they blow up a building its really up to troops on the ground to finish the fight. Similarly with the Arab spring, while it is undoubtedly helpful to disrupt the Government's use of and interference in , the Internet, it's the people who are willing to stand up and say "Here is the new way to run our country and I am willing to give my life to that ideal." who impress me more. Just like it is more impressive (or makes more of an impact on me) when someone in the US chooses to actually serve in Government to fix it, or invests their time and energies in revitalizing the institutions that allow it to change to the will of the people. In the original article Sabu states "When Tunisia filtered off its internet from the world, it was the Tunisians who came online using dial-up and literally allowed us to use their connections to tunnel through to re-deface the prime minister's websites. It was the most impressive thing I've seen: a revolution coinciding both physically and online. It was the first time I had proof that what Anonymous was doing was real and it was working." I may be too old or too out of touch to appreciate how significant 'defacing the prime minister's website' was to the overall effort. When Khalid went to Egypt and stood in the square and rallied people to support the overthrowing of the corrupt government there I thought, "Here is a guy who is willing to put his life on the line for a cause he believes in." And I felt a great deal of respect for that. When Sabu mentions how great is was that Tunisians created dialup gateways that subverted the government infrastructure and they went in and scribbled on the Prime Minister's website, it just wasn't very impressive to me.