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Eh, my relatives are South Vietnamese, Vietcong was basically mafia and when communists won, they were horrible to the South. Not saying Diem government was th
by shp0ngle 5y ago
Eh, my relatives are South Vietnamese, Vietcong was basically mafia and when communists won, they were horrible to the South.
Not saying Diem government was that good, especially in their last months their anti-buddhist paranoia made them insane; but yeah communists were bad against the buddhists too once they came into power.
But yeah Agent Orange and napalm were horrible. There is no debate about that.
- dash2 5y agoSorry that this got downvoted. Large numbers of Vietnamese refugees fled Vietnam after the North's victory.[1] Arbitrary arrest and torture remains widespread in Vietnam according to Amnesty International. These were incredibly interesting and inspiring pictures and it's a shame to see the top comment hijacked by juvenile America-baaad-ism. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_boat_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_boat_people
- shp0ngle 5y agoWell nowadays the government is much better and basically tolerable. Torture and death sentences are still present, but I would not say widespread, unlike in the hardest years of communism. There are political prisoners, but it’s not random and widespread. Coincidentally, Vietnamese communist government nowadays tries to be Best Friend with USA.
- cies 5y ago> Torture and death sentences are still present, but I would not say widespread Also in the US that you seem to defend...
- altcognito 5y agoMy Vietnamese friends would explain to you: They are happy to have worked hard here, own restaurants, get degreees and raise children in a system that is largely fair and representative. It does not lack problems but they would argue it is far fairer than communism.
- shp0ngle 5y agoI am not defending or commenting on US itself, I have never been there honestly. I am kind of defending US actions in Vietnam, and really not US actions themselves, but the South Vietnam government (US did some bad stuff there)
- treis 5y agoThe difference between N.Korea and S.Korea is a good support for this. At the time of the Korean war maybe they weren't too different but the difference today is stark. Not difficult to imagine a similar outcome if the south had won the Vietnam war.
- SyzygistSix 5y agoThe hardliner Communists may have never taken over the Northern government if elections had happened and Ho Chi Min was elected, as was expected. He modeled their constitution on the US constitution and asked the US for help. It's a lot easier to see that in hindsight and I'm sure it was not easy at the time to make the right decisions though.