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The topic is in violation of policies? For being offtopic? Or for advertising? I hate it when I'm left to guess the reasoning for administrative actions. It ca

by dlsa 5y ago

The topic is in violation of policies? For being offtopic? Or for advertising? I hate it when I'm left to guess the reasoning for administrative actions. It causes me to assume "just because we say so". I'm an op for multiple things and always quote the specific portion when kicking or blocking or whatever. Helps when you number each part, but to quote my old mentor, "Fortunately, I keep my feathers numbered, for just such an emergency." Ah foghorn!

immibis 5y ago
"Advertising" is when someone comes into a channel and says "hey y'all join my other unrelated server". Advertising official project spaces by official project members has always been fine. Think of all the channel topics that have project websites in them - that's technically advertising, too! The real reason is that freenode is desperate to stop the bleeding. And in the process, they just destroyed their reputation. They are now the network that tried to build a Berlin Wall to keep the users in.
- infogulch 5y ago
  > They are now the network that tried to build a Berlin Wall to keep the users in. If the free speech of official project channels is off the table, then the community has already been destroyed. How the result of these actions were not painfully obvious to Lee is beyond my comprehension.
- anticensor 5y ago
  > They are now the network that tried to build a Berlin Wall to keep the users in. Are you sure that wall is not to keep them out? /s
phire 5y ago
As far as I can tell, their policies say nothing about the contents of the #topic. But as of 8 hours ago, the policies do say that if a primary channel closes access to users then freenode will close the #primary channel and forward to the ##topical channel.
- vraid 5y ago
  We had an unregistered channel with 5 users left that got the same treatment. The topic (which was free for anyone to change..) contained irc.libera.chat
grayhatter 5y ago
He's butt hurt, freenode's "policy" is just a red herring. Tt feels dishonest to me to pretend any other explanation makes sense.

by dlsa 5y ago

immibis 5y ago

"Advertising" is when someone comes into a channel and says "hey y'all join my other unrelated server". Advertising official project spaces by official project members has always been fine. Think of all the channel topics that have project websites in them - that's technically advertising, too! The real reason is that freenode is desperate to stop the bleeding. And in the process, they just destroyed their reputation. They are now the network that tried to build a Berlin Wall to keep the users in.

infogulch 5y ago
> They are now the network that tried to build a Berlin Wall to keep the users in. If the free speech of official project channels is off the table, then the community has already been destroyed. How the result of these actions were not painfully obvious to Lee is beyond my comprehension.
anticensor 5y ago
> They are now the network that tried to build a Berlin Wall to keep the users in. Are you sure that wall is not to keep them out? /s

phire 5y ago

As far as I can tell, their policies say nothing about the contents of the #topic. But as of 8 hours ago, the policies do say that if a primary channel closes access to users then freenode will close the #primary channel and forward to the ##topical channel.

vraid 5y ago
We had an unregistered channel with 5 users left that got the same treatment. The topic (which was free for anyone to change..) contained irc.libera.chat

grayhatter 5y ago

He's butt hurt, freenode's "policy" is just a red herring. Tt feels dishonest to me to pretend any other explanation makes sense.