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Sheees this guy is really taking over channels because they mention and or are discussing an alternative??? Imagine any propetary platform doing that and the ba

Sheees this guy is really taking over channels because they mention and or are discussing an alternative??? Imagine any propetary platform doing that and the backslash will face

StavrosK 5y ago
Well, we don't have to imagine!
- gassius 5y ago
  It might be, but I am not aware. Any reference?
  - J-Kuhn 5y ago
    Whatsapp blocked telegram.me links at some point (I think when it was acquired by facebook, inciting an other mass exodus)
    - scrollaway 5y ago
      How? WhatsApp messages are e2ee. Via the preview pings maybe?
      - e3bc54b2 5y ago
        If I remember, telegram.me links would not be identified as URLs requiring manual copy-paste. They didn't have link previews back then. The messages are E2EE only in transit. They can always tweak clients for things like this.
  - forty 5y ago
    For example, try referencing another platform or payment system in an iOS app ;)
  - michaelmrose 5y ago
    Freenode is now a proprietary platform operated by Lee.
  - xref 5y ago
    Definitely can’t reference other places to buy an item from your eBay or Amazon posting. Hell Amazon won’t even let you sell at a lower price elsewhere, and they have web scraping automation setup to catch you and hide your listings if you do…
  - StavrosK 5y ago
    I meant that Freenode is now proprietary as well, as the sibling comment mentions, yep!
qwertox 5y ago
So basically post a note into every channel with the recommendation to move over to Libera.chat? Freenode would end up with a clean server, what a relaxed way to start into a new future.
- ImPostingOnHN 5y ago
  A non-strawman version would be, basically let individual communities and their leaders decide for themselves what their future free-as-in-freedom comms platform is, without unsolicited technical interference from their current comms platform. Imagine if your e-mail provider learned you were considering switching to another provider, and without warning, locked you out of your e-mail account, and then used it to advertise a new e-mail account, created by them, in your name, that you have no control over, to all your acquaintances, saying that you aren't actually switching providers, and the new e-mail account is the real one. These are the actions of a sociopath.

Sheees this guy is really taking over channels because they mention and or are discussing an alternative??? Imagine any propetary platform doing that and the backslash will face

StavrosK 5y ago

Well, we don't have to imagine!

gassius 5y ago
It might be, but I am not aware. Any reference?
- J-Kuhn 5y ago
  Whatsapp blocked telegram.me links at some point (I think when it was acquired by facebook, inciting an other mass exodus)
  - scrollaway 5y ago
    How? WhatsApp messages are e2ee. Via the preview pings maybe?
    - e3bc54b2 5y ago
      If I remember, telegram.me links would not be identified as URLs requiring manual copy-paste. They didn't have link previews back then. The messages are E2EE only in transit. They can always tweak clients for things like this.
- forty 5y ago
  For example, try referencing another platform or payment system in an iOS app ;)
- michaelmrose 5y ago
  Freenode is now a proprietary platform operated by Lee.
- xref 5y ago
  Definitely can’t reference other places to buy an item from your eBay or Amazon posting. Hell Amazon won’t even let you sell at a lower price elsewhere, and they have web scraping automation setup to catch you and hide your listings if you do…
- StavrosK 5y ago
  I meant that Freenode is now proprietary as well, as the sibling comment mentions, yep!

qwertox 5y ago

So basically post a note into every channel with the recommendation to move over to Libera.chat? Freenode would end up with a clean server, what a relaxed way to start into a new future.

ImPostingOnHN 5y ago
A non-strawman version would be, basically let individual communities and their leaders decide for themselves what their future free-as-in-freedom comms platform is, without unsolicited technical interference from their current comms platform. Imagine if your e-mail provider learned you were considering switching to another provider, and without warning, locked you out of your e-mail account, and then used it to advertise a new e-mail account, created by them, in your name, that you have no control over, to all your acquaintances, saying that you aren't actually switching providers, and the new e-mail account is the real one. These are the actions of a sociopath.