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#killfreenode seems on point now. Kindly move your communities over to matrix, or I guess https://libera.chat/ https://libera.chat/ if you just must stick with

#killfreenode seems on point now. Kindly move your communities over to matrix, or I guess https://libera.chat/ https://libera.chat/ if you just must stick with irc.

Seirdy 5y ago
I wrote my thoughts on IRC/Matrix wrt moving from Fleenode in the Libravatar mailing list: https://lists.launchpad.net/libravatar-fans/msg00330.html https://lists.launchpad.net/libravatar-fans/msg00330.html Pasting the message below: Personally, I don't have a big problem with either since both are open platforms with some degree of federation; I use both daily through WeeChat and Gomuks. However, I do have a preference for IRC for a number of reasons: 1. Given that so many other projects are on IRC, it makes sense to not require people to use a different client just for a few select communities. 2. Many people, including myself, prefer TUI clients to graphical ones. Right now, the only TUI Matrix client that isn't missing essential features is Gomuks. While Gomuks development seems to be progressing well, I wouldn't say it's a replacement for other graphical clients yet. 3. Issues with Matrix itself: I described these in a bit more detail in a blog post, "Keeping Platforms Open". https://seirdy.one/2021/02/23/keeping-platforms-open.html https://seirdy.one/2021/02/23/keeping-platforms-open.html. Regarding features in Matrix that aren't present in IRC: Long-form and long-term discussion already happens in a mailing list, which is well-suited for the task; I'm not aware of any other open platform that allows nested discussion threads delimited by subject. Given the existence of a mailing list, I think a chat platform should focus on a niche that isn't covered by mailing lists: ephemeral, real-time chat with less structure. If a discussion needs marked replies and searchable history, it's probably better off happening in a mailing list. Given that these features aren't especially valuable given the existence of a mailing list, I'd say that IRC should fit the bill. Honestly, I don't think a Matrix-IRC bridge hurts the Matrix experience too much since join/leave events can simply be filtered out from most clients. Most of the issues come from the perspective of IRC users, mainly long-form messages turning into pastebin links instead of being broken up. That being said, I find excessive pastebin links preferable to not having IRC support at all.
qiqitori 5y ago
Any good CLI clients for Matrix?
- Macha 5y ago
  I think weechat-matrix is the most mature option

#killfreenode seems on point now. Kindly move your communities over to matrix, or I guess https://libera.chat/ https://libera.chat/ if you just must stick with irc.

Seirdy 5y ago

I wrote my thoughts on IRC/Matrix wrt moving from Fleenode in the Libravatar mailing list: https://lists.launchpad.net/libravatar-fans/msg00330.html https://lists.launchpad.net/libravatar-fans/msg00330.html Pasting the message below: Personally, I don't have a big problem with either since both are open platforms with some degree of federation; I use both daily through WeeChat and Gomuks. However, I do have a preference for IRC for a number of reasons: 1. Given that so many other projects are on IRC, it makes sense to not require people to use a different client just for a few select communities. 2. Many people, including myself, prefer TUI clients to graphical ones. Right now, the only TUI Matrix client that isn't missing essential features is Gomuks. While Gomuks development seems to be progressing well, I wouldn't say it's a replacement for other graphical clients yet. 3. Issues with Matrix itself: I described these in a bit more detail in a blog post, "Keeping Platforms Open". https://seirdy.one/2021/02/23/keeping-platforms-open.html https://seirdy.one/2021/02/23/keeping-platforms-open.html. Regarding features in Matrix that aren't present in IRC: Long-form and long-term discussion already happens in a mailing list, which is well-suited for the task; I'm not aware of any other open platform that allows nested discussion threads delimited by subject. Given the existence of a mailing list, I think a chat platform should focus on a niche that isn't covered by mailing lists: ephemeral, real-time chat with less structure. If a discussion needs marked replies and searchable history, it's probably better off happening in a mailing list. Given that these features aren't especially valuable given the existence of a mailing list, I'd say that IRC should fit the bill. Honestly, I don't think a Matrix-IRC bridge hurts the Matrix experience too much since join/leave events can simply be filtered out from most clients. Most of the issues come from the perspective of IRC users, mainly long-form messages turning into pastebin links instead of being broken up. That being said, I find excessive pastebin links preferable to not having IRC support at all.

qiqitori 5y ago

Any good CLI clients for Matrix?

Macha 5y ago
I think weechat-matrix is the most mature option