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Thank goodness we have... Fox News? Newsmax? OAN? Breitbart? to give us the real scoop. The company you keep and all that.

juandora 5y ago
Those, like CNN or MSNBC, are [mostly vapid and useless] boomer-tier news sources. I doubt you'll find too many posters here who see much more than passing glances of those types of sources. Someone posting here is more likely to be a NYT junkie or even more likely a scavenger feeding from multiple sources in an effort to assemble a more rounded understanding. >The company you keep and all that. This is rather rude response, btw. You did not address their post, you just yelled 'trumper!'. I mean, come on. You can do better, I have faith in you. :P They aren't wrong though, and there is nothing necessarily partisan about their viewpoints. When it comes to the media and politics in much of the western world there is the innocent-until-proven-guilty 'people of color', and then there is the guilty-regardless-of-innocence whipping race aka 'white'. This kind of dehumanization presages genocides. Read Jean Hatzfeld's fantastic works on the Rwandan Genocide(1) and you cannot help but see the parallels. (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Hatzfeld https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Hatzfeld
tryonenow 5y ago
If fox, newsmax, and OAN are the only ones willing to report on certain topics earnestly, like, say patterns in black on asian violence, or other ethnically sensitive issues, then yes, their voices are critical to a functioning democracy. The way that news, entertainment, social, and "fact checking" media all effectively collude to discredit these sources for political leaning is dangerous, and in effect disenfranchises about 50% of the populace who do not lean left, in the online public sphere. This is an unstable configuration. Dismissal of these sources conflates political bias with unreliability. It's disingenuous, especially when outlets biased to the same degree but in the other direction are de facto approved on Wikipedia, reddit, stackexchange, Twitter, etc. You notice the growing hyperpolarization in this country? This is one of the main contributors. The left has monopolized public discourse and implicitly and increasingly colludes to keep right leaning sources discredited and silenced. YouTube's removal of the video in the OP is one of many examples which consistently align with the sort of progressive policies that are now sweeping the corporate sphere - and rural Americans are losing their voice, while being slandered as ignorant bigots. Go to the talk page for any remotely political article and you'll see a minority of right leaning editors consistently bullied and their sources outright disregarded. That's on top of the chilling effect which this consistent behavior has on the expression of what have become politically taboo opinions. It's an unspoken, incestuous club, and denying this pervasive bias is gaslighting.

juandora 5y ago

Those, like CNN or MSNBC, are [mostly vapid and useless] boomer-tier news sources. I doubt you'll find too many posters here who see much more than passing glances of those types of sources. Someone posting here is more likely to be a NYT junkie or even more likely a scavenger feeding from multiple sources in an effort to assemble a more rounded understanding. >The company you keep and all that. This is rather rude response, btw. You did not address their post, you just yelled 'trumper!'. I mean, come on. You can do better, I have faith in you. :P They aren't wrong though, and there is nothing necessarily partisan about their viewpoints. When it comes to the media and politics in much of the western world there is the innocent-until-proven-guilty 'people of color', and then there is the guilty-regardless-of-innocence whipping race aka 'white'. This kind of dehumanization presages genocides. Read Jean Hatzfeld's fantastic works on the Rwandan Genocide(1) and you cannot help but see the parallels. (1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Hatzfeld https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Hatzfeld

tryonenow 5y ago

If fox, newsmax, and OAN are the only ones willing to report on certain topics earnestly, like, say patterns in black on asian violence, or other ethnically sensitive issues, then yes, their voices are critical to a functioning democracy. The way that news, entertainment, social, and "fact checking" media all effectively collude to discredit these sources for political leaning is dangerous, and in effect disenfranchises about 50% of the populace who do not lean left, in the online public sphere. This is an unstable configuration. Dismissal of these sources conflates political bias with unreliability. It's disingenuous, especially when outlets biased to the same degree but in the other direction are de facto approved on Wikipedia, reddit, stackexchange, Twitter, etc. You notice the growing hyperpolarization in this country? This is one of the main contributors. The left has monopolized public discourse and implicitly and increasingly colludes to keep right leaning sources discredited and silenced. YouTube's removal of the video in the OP is one of many examples which consistently align with the sort of progressive policies that are now sweeping the corporate sphere - and rural Americans are losing their voice, while being slandered as ignorant bigots. Go to the talk page for any remotely political article and you'll see a minority of right leaning editors consistently bullied and their sources outright disregarded. That's on top of the chilling effect which this consistent behavior has on the expression of what have become politically taboo opinions. It's an unspoken, incestuous club, and denying this pervasive bias is gaslighting.