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Because most people who use that rhetoric will always imply the disparity exists because of genetic disposition rather than a social one. The logic tree goes fr
by nemothekid 5y ago
Because most people who use that rhetoric will always imply the disparity exists because of genetic disposition rather than a social one. The logic tree goes from "black people commit a lot of violent crime" to "black people are dangerous" (then from there to other various racist tropes), while ignoring the mountain of other socioeconmic issues.
Consider this, if I told you Koreans only make 1% of Japan but they make up 70% of the Yakuza, what would you take away from that? The observation is true. But do you think I'm making a fair implication about Koreans in general? What if I said next that the Japanese police should be free to treat Koreans anyway they fit? Would you agree to that? I hope you would see that as insane, but that is line of reasoning that always happens with 13/52.
So currently when I read "black on asian violence is increasing" I'm not sure yet whether I can believe the author is making a fairly reasoned observation about black people ideologically attacking asians, or if they are calling for a "force" to "take a closer look at those black people".
- haram_masala 5y agoYou make a very good point. Regarding the Korean example, I’d conclude that Koreans are more likely to get involved in organized crime in Japan because of structural factors of Japanese society and economy.
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- rkk3 5y agoThey are factually incorrect about 70% of the Yakuza being Korean. "While ethnic Koreans make up only 0.5% of the Japanese population, they are a prominent part of Yakuza ... The Japanese National Police Agency suggested Koreans composed 10% of the Yakuza proper" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza#:~:text=According%20to%20a%202006%20speech,percent%20are%20from%20non%2Dburakumin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza#:~:text=According%20to%...
- A4ET8a8uTh0 5y agoWould you say that your Korean example is an apt comparison to 13/52? Most people here recognize the trope about lies, lies and statistics and it feels like it now. In a more practical sense, does this statistic matter to an individual on a dark night? Will I fear being called racist as I walk down South Side Chicago on a dark night or 13/52? The choice here is not a choice at all.
- nemothekid 5y agoIf I’m walking down Nishinari on a dark night will I fear being called a racist or 1/70? Upon hearing that I don’t think anyone would focus on the statistic (that I’m implying Koreans are violent) and instead focus on the fact that it’s dangerous because is a high crime neighborhood. Somehow you have missed the point entirely; it’s strange you bring up the lies, damn lies quote but continue to argue the statistic point. In a practical sense, if I were to travel to high crime area in Mexico or Belarus, would it be logical for me to not fear getting mugged because there are no black people? You’ve presented a false choice - you created a situation where you are a likely to mugged for socioeconomic factors and then have walked that back into carrying water for a racist trope.
- rkk3 5y agoSince the Yakuza is only around 10% Ethnically Korean its a bad comparison. Ethnic Koreans are over represented though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza#:~:text=According%20to%20a%202006%20speech,percent%20are%20from%20non%2Dburakumin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakuza#:~:text=According%20to%...