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1 is the most important. It also has 3 for machine learning. Rust barely has 2 and 3. Mozilla never pushed it much and it also is not a huge employer. It has 3

by rapsey 5y ago

1 is the most important. It also has 3 for machine learning. Rust barely has 2 and 3. Mozilla never pushed it much and it also is not a huge employer. It has 3 if you strech the definition.

littlestymaar 5y ago
> It also has 3 for machine learning. Python was popular way before machine learning went mainstream. > 1 is the most important. 1. is super important, but keep in mind that Python having a much higher barrier to entry than PHP on the web didn't stop it from becoming popular in that field. Also 1. is really context dependent, and even if Rust has a bigger barrier to entry than Python, it has a much smaller one that its direct competitors (C and C++) because of its documentation, learning material, compiler error messages and dependency management. Regarding 2. you must have missed the news: Rust is now officially pushed by Microsoft, AWS, Google and Facebook. In fact you'd have difficulties to find languages with stronger corporate backing than Rust today apart from C# and Java.
- rapsey 5y ago
  It's never winner takes all. There is space enough for a whole lot of languages. Keep in mind in the early days of Python it was pushed by Google. They specifically looked and advertised for python developers. That is more of a push than any company ever did for Rust. Rust barrier to entry compared to C/C++ is debatable. Lots of universities for instance have courses in them. They have a whole lot of books and a large community out there. I disagree about 2 and Rust. Those companies have projects in them and they are a part of rust foundation. They are however not mass employing Rust developers and only AWS has components for core stuff in Rust. Of course it is debatable for what is a core component.
  - littlestymaar 5y ago
    > Keep in mind in the early days of Python it was pushed by Google. You know Python is older than Google by several years right? ;) When this happened, Python was older than Rust today. > That is more of a push than any company ever did for Rust. Microsoft recently made Rust a officially language for developing Windows Native apps[1] and they've advertised the use of the language quite a bit during the past year. Google just released its new operating system developed with as much Rust as C and C++ combined[2]. Also, Facebook and AWS have hired members of the Rust development team after Mozilla's layoff last year to continue their work on Rust. [1]: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2021/05/06/announcing-rust-for-windows-v0-9/ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2021/05/06/announ... [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27274820 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27274820

by rapsey 5y ago

1 is the most important. It also has 3 for machine learning. Rust barely has 2 and 3. Mozilla never pushed it much and it also is not a huge employer. It has 3 if you strech the definition.

littlestymaar 5y ago

> It also has 3 for machine learning. Python was popular way before machine learning went mainstream. > 1 is the most important. 1. is super important, but keep in mind that Python having a much higher barrier to entry than PHP on the web didn't stop it from becoming popular in that field. Also 1. is really context dependent, and even if Rust has a bigger barrier to entry than Python, it has a much smaller one that its direct competitors (C and C++) because of its documentation, learning material, compiler error messages and dependency management. Regarding 2. you must have missed the news: Rust is now officially pushed by Microsoft, AWS, Google and Facebook. In fact you'd have difficulties to find languages with stronger corporate backing than Rust today apart from C# and Java.

rapsey 5y ago
It's never winner takes all. There is space enough for a whole lot of languages. Keep in mind in the early days of Python it was pushed by Google. They specifically looked and advertised for python developers. That is more of a push than any company ever did for Rust. Rust barrier to entry compared to C/C++ is debatable. Lots of universities for instance have courses in them. They have a whole lot of books and a large community out there. I disagree about 2 and Rust. Those companies have projects in them and they are a part of rust foundation. They are however not mass employing Rust developers and only AWS has components for core stuff in Rust. Of course it is debatable for what is a core component.
- littlestymaar 5y ago
  > Keep in mind in the early days of Python it was pushed by Google. You know Python is older than Google by several years right? ;) When this happened, Python was older than Rust today. > That is more of a push than any company ever did for Rust. Microsoft recently made Rust a officially language for developing Windows Native apps[1] and they've advertised the use of the language quite a bit during the past year. Google just released its new operating system developed with as much Rust as C and C++ combined[2]. Also, Facebook and AWS have hired members of the Rust development team after Mozilla's layoff last year to continue their work on Rust. [1]: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2021/05/06/announcing-rust-for-windows-v0-9/ https://blogs.windows.com/windowsdeveloper/2021/05/06/announ... [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27274820 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27274820