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I dislike a lot of Google's practices as much as the next guy, but this is literally just a case of "nobody paying serious attention" rather than outright malic

by ronsor 5y ago

I dislike a lot of Google's practices as much as the next guy, but this is literally just a case of "nobody paying serious attention" rather than outright malice. We all (should) know that moderation at Google is mostly black-box bots that may or may not work properly.

munk-a 5y ago
Here's the thing though. That doesn't matter. Whether it's malicious or not, Google created this ecosystem where you need to process and serve a bazillion ads to compete with them, if they're unable to properly vet those ads it's on them to scale back to a size where they can properly vet them. If this was a one-off issue then sure - but Google runs a lot of really slimy advertisements.
- jawline 5y ago
  Yeah - beyond political issues they also just outright advertise pyramid schemes. I live in Hong Kong and most of the adverts here are for a clearly fraudulent scheme that advertises by having young women screaming and showing a bank balance on a phone. It's pretty telling that even small-ish video producers are willing to vet their advertising partners more thoroughly.
- strken 5y ago
  I think it does matter, because a decentralised system would have much greater problems moderating content than Google does today. If this was coming from the Belarusian government bidding for ad time on thousands of peertube instances and the response was piecemeal requests to each federated instance's admin team, then it would also take a very long time to remove from the system as a whole. It might well be impossible to remove it from every popular instance.
  - Judgmentality 5y ago
    A better solution is for Google to hire more people to help with moderation. It's just that Google doesn't want to spend more money, it wants to make more profit.
idlewords 5y ago
That's the disgusting thing about it.
elliekelly 5y ago
Except (if the allegations in the tweet are true) the issue has been brought to YouTube’s attention. It’s hard to plead innocent inadvertent ignorance if you were specifically put on notice.
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kodah 5y ago
> this is literally just a case of "nobody paying serious attention" rather than outright malice That's always been the case and it still doesn't matter. It would matter if this was an isolated thing that happened every once in a while, but the outcome has been the same, which makes it not matter when it's been going on for so long.
nullc 5y ago
> but this is literally just a case of "nobody paying serious attention" rather than outright malice. Hate to break it to you, but that is how most evil in the world works-- through callous indifference and incompetence, not through some cartoon villain.

by ronsor 5y ago

munk-a 5y ago

Here's the thing though. That doesn't matter. Whether it's malicious or not, Google created this ecosystem where you need to process and serve a bazillion ads to compete with them, if they're unable to properly vet those ads it's on them to scale back to a size where they can properly vet them. If this was a one-off issue then sure - but Google runs a lot of really slimy advertisements.

jawline 5y ago
Yeah - beyond political issues they also just outright advertise pyramid schemes. I live in Hong Kong and most of the adverts here are for a clearly fraudulent scheme that advertises by having young women screaming and showing a bank balance on a phone. It's pretty telling that even small-ish video producers are willing to vet their advertising partners more thoroughly.
strken 5y ago
I think it does matter, because a decentralised system would have much greater problems moderating content than Google does today. If this was coming from the Belarusian government bidding for ad time on thousands of peertube instances and the response was piecemeal requests to each federated instance's admin team, then it would also take a very long time to remove from the system as a whole. It might well be impossible to remove it from every popular instance.
- Judgmentality 5y ago
  A better solution is for Google to hire more people to help with moderation. It's just that Google doesn't want to spend more money, it wants to make more profit.

idlewords 5y ago

That's the disgusting thing about it.

elliekelly 5y ago

Except (if the allegations in the tweet are true) the issue has been brought to YouTube’s attention. It’s hard to plead innocent inadvertent ignorance if you were specifically put on notice.

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kodah 5y ago

> this is literally just a case of "nobody paying serious attention" rather than outright malice That's always been the case and it still doesn't matter. It would matter if this was an isolated thing that happened every once in a while, but the outcome has been the same, which makes it not matter when it's been going on for so long.

nullc 5y ago

> but this is literally just a case of "nobody paying serious attention" rather than outright malice. Hate to break it to you, but that is how most evil in the world works-- through callous indifference and incompetence, not through some cartoon villain.