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Why would most commercial software be on data center computers? Where do these assumptions come from?

chrisseaton 5y ago
I don't understand - do you think most services are run from someone's random desktop? That's not the way it works in the real world.
- CyberDildonics 5y ago
  To be clear, you think most commercial software runs on linux because you think most commercial software is services running in data centers?
  - chrisseaton 5y ago
    Data centres, back-office server cabinets, bank main-frames, embedded devices, POS, handled devices. Where do you think it's running? On Dell Opterons on people's desks running Windows? That's not how it's worked for decades.
    - CyberDildonics 5y ago
      Not how what worked? 95% of desktops are windows or mac, 99% of mobile are android and iOS. That is computers sold, business included. What is this hallucination that all programs are some sort of command line chron job? https://netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx https://netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.asp...
      - chrisseaton 5y ago
        > 95% of desktops are windows or mac, 99% of mobile are android and iOS. That is computers sold, business included. But that isn't where most software runs. Most people just run a browser or a couple of desktop apps locally. The vast majority of software is embedded or in data centres, running on Linux or iOS as an exceptional case. Think about how many services you interact with daily - how many websites, payment services, bank systems, networking systems, other online computer systems in your life. You probably interact with hundreds of such systems every day not always realising it. Compared to what... three or four desktop apps maybe? Many poorer people don't even own a desktop or laptop at all - so they interact with zero desktop apps but still hundreds of services via their (Linux) phones. > What is this hallucination that all programs are some sort of command line chron job? That's literally what most programs are - services providing an API or a web UI running as a command line program in a data centre.
        CyberDildonics 5y ago
        To recap, you made a nonsensical hyperbolic statement that is heavily contradicted by real numbers of what computers people buy and use, then say that web pages served from open source software are "running commercial software" while the computers that display and run the web page don't count. Do I have all of this right?
        chrisseaton 5y ago
        Not sure why you're being so confrontational about this? It's not about how many computers - it's about where most software is running - those are two different things. > then say that web pages served from open source software are "running commercial software" Yes websites are commercial software. I don't understand what's confusing about that? Facebook is commercial software. It runs on Linux. It makes billions of dollars. Thousands and thousands of engineers working on it are making money on Linux.
        CyberDildonics 5y ago
        So instead of commercial software you meant internal command line scripts and instead of running on you meant serving up web pages and instead of on linux, you meant using linux and open source web servers and instead of most commercial software you meant a single company that makes money and instead of numbers you meant guesses. Seems like a bit of a stretch. Seems like you just like to make nonsense claims and backpeddle instead of admitting they are ridiculous.
        chrisseaton 5y ago
        Sorry your comment doesn't really make sense to me. Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc, are all examples of massive successful commercial applications running on Linux. The original question was 'How can you make money on linux?' The answer is these companies and more make billions, and the employees make hundreds of thousands, all writing applications on Linux. Most developers I know make money writing applications on Linux.

I don't understand - do you think most services are run from someone's random desktop? That's not the way it works in the real world.

CyberDildonics 5y ago
To be clear, you think most commercial software runs on linux because you think most commercial software is services running in data centers?
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  Data centres, back-office server cabinets, bank main-frames, embedded devices, POS, handled devices. Where do you think it's running? On Dell Opterons on people's desks running Windows? That's not how it's worked for decades.
  - CyberDildonics 5y ago
    Not how what worked? 95% of desktops are windows or mac, 99% of mobile are android and iOS. That is computers sold, business included. What is this hallucination that all programs are some sort of command line chron job? https://netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx https://netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.asp...
    - chrisseaton 5y ago
      > 95% of desktops are windows or mac, 99% of mobile are android and iOS. That is computers sold, business included. But that isn't where most software runs. Most people just run a browser or a couple of desktop apps locally. The vast majority of software is embedded or in data centres, running on Linux or iOS as an exceptional case. Think about how many services you interact with daily - how many websites, payment services, bank systems, networking systems, other online computer systems in your life. You probably interact with hundreds of such systems every day not always realising it. Compared to what... three or four desktop apps maybe? Many poorer people don't even own a desktop or laptop at all - so they interact with zero desktop apps but still hundreds of services via their (Linux) phones. > What is this hallucination that all programs are some sort of command line chron job? That's literally what most programs are - services providing an API or a web UI running as a command line program in a data centre.
      - CyberDildonics 5y ago
        To recap, you made a nonsensical hyperbolic statement that is heavily contradicted by real numbers of what computers people buy and use, then say that web pages served from open source software are "running commercial software" while the computers that display and run the web page don't count. Do I have all of this right?
        chrisseaton 5y ago
        Not sure why you're being so confrontational about this? It's not about how many computers - it's about where most software is running - those are two different things. > then say that web pages served from open source software are "running commercial software" Yes websites are commercial software. I don't understand what's confusing about that? Facebook is commercial software. It runs on Linux. It makes billions of dollars. Thousands and thousands of engineers working on it are making money on Linux.
        CyberDildonics 5y ago
        So instead of commercial software you meant internal command line scripts and instead of running on you meant serving up web pages and instead of on linux, you meant using linux and open source web servers and instead of most commercial software you meant a single company that makes money and instead of numbers you meant guesses. Seems like a bit of a stretch. Seems like you just like to make nonsense claims and backpeddle instead of admitting they are ridiculous.
        chrisseaton 5y ago
        Sorry your comment doesn't really make sense to me. Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc, are all examples of massive successful commercial applications running on Linux. The original question was 'How can you make money on linux?' The answer is these companies and more make billions, and the employees make hundreds of thousands, all writing applications on Linux. Most developers I know make money writing applications on Linux.