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You're reinforcing OP's point: You don't care about afterlife. Don't have to, but recognise that many do, and have been for a very long time.

ALittleLight 5y ago
The Pharoh might be incensed we let his slaves go free, educated women, didn't worship Ra, etc. We don't respect any of ancient Egypt's beliefs except we should respect their reverence for the dead? Doesn't make sense to me.
- ceilingcorner 5y ago
  Is it really that difficult to just leave the Pharaohs in the pyramids and not in a glass box at the museum? Doesn’t really seem too much to me. They built the pyramids, after all.
  - klyrs 5y ago
    Point of fact, they did not build the pyramids. Their slaves did the work. Maybe let's split the difference -- what proportion of the slaves would want to see the pharaoh's corpses defiled?
    - WalterBright 5y ago
      > slaves That's the Hollywood narrative. Archaeology points to them being free men. Though nobody knows for sure.
      - klyrs 5y ago
        Regardless, the Pharaohs didn't build 'em, did they?
  - ALittleLight 5y ago
    Yeah, it is that difficult. Huge numbers of people want to see the mummies and will pay for the privilege. The people with legal claims to the mummies make significant money. Denying the owners profits and the curious the chance to indulge their curiosity for the benefit of people a thousand years dead is a derangement of moral priorities. We should care more about the living than the long dead. We can learn from and about them.
  - edgyquant 5y ago
    Why should people who lived thousands of years ago have an indefinite claim to a piece of land and the materials upon it? Why should we leave the pharaoh in the pyramid?
  - codyb 5y ago
    Having historical artifacts in museums that millions of people can visit is a valuable social good which embiggens curiosity, exacerbates mental well being, and strikes fear into the very heart of boredom.
strken 5y ago
At some point moral values clash. The Egyptian Pharaohs kept slaves, fought wars of aggression, and had their living retainers sacrificed so they could continue to serve after death. We haven't kept sacrificing people, because we agree that it's just outright wrong. He and I think it's also just outright wrong to hide archaeological details from future generations for the sake of the long dead. It sounds like you disagree with us, but the argument that we should respect their wishes just because they wished them is not a strong one, given that we reject some wishes on a case by case basis as morally repugnant. What is it about this wish in particular that should be respected more than other wishes?

ALittleLight 5y ago

The Pharoh might be incensed we let his slaves go free, educated women, didn't worship Ra, etc. We don't respect any of ancient Egypt's beliefs except we should respect their reverence for the dead? Doesn't make sense to me.

ceilingcorner 5y ago
Is it really that difficult to just leave the Pharaohs in the pyramids and not in a glass box at the museum? Doesn’t really seem too much to me. They built the pyramids, after all.
- klyrs 5y ago
  Point of fact, they did not build the pyramids. Their slaves did the work. Maybe let's split the difference -- what proportion of the slaves would want to see the pharaoh's corpses defiled?
  - WalterBright 5y ago
    > slaves That's the Hollywood narrative. Archaeology points to them being free men. Though nobody knows for sure.
    - klyrs 5y ago
      Regardless, the Pharaohs didn't build 'em, did they?
- ALittleLight 5y ago
  Yeah, it is that difficult. Huge numbers of people want to see the mummies and will pay for the privilege. The people with legal claims to the mummies make significant money. Denying the owners profits and the curious the chance to indulge their curiosity for the benefit of people a thousand years dead is a derangement of moral priorities. We should care more about the living than the long dead. We can learn from and about them.
- edgyquant 5y ago
  Why should people who lived thousands of years ago have an indefinite claim to a piece of land and the materials upon it? Why should we leave the pharaoh in the pyramid?
- codyb 5y ago
  Having historical artifacts in museums that millions of people can visit is a valuable social good which embiggens curiosity, exacerbates mental well being, and strikes fear into the very heart of boredom.

strken 5y ago

At some point moral values clash. The Egyptian Pharaohs kept slaves, fought wars of aggression, and had their living retainers sacrificed so they could continue to serve after death. We haven't kept sacrificing people, because we agree that it's just outright wrong. He and I think it's also just outright wrong to hide archaeological details from future generations for the sake of the long dead. It sounds like you disagree with us, but the argument that we should respect their wishes just because they wished them is not a strong one, given that we reject some wishes on a case by case basis as morally repugnant. What is it about this wish in particular that should be respected more than other wishes?