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>> it's incumbent on us developers to be more willing to pay for things. If it is worthwhile and not freely available, I will certainly pay. There are some gr

>> it's incumbent on us developers to be more willing to pay for things. If it is worthwhile and not freely available, I will certainly pay. There are some great IDEs and tools that fit into this category. >> We know now that free doesn't really work. I suppose it depends on your needs, but I find using free tools such as zsh, vim, tmux, linux, and many others very valuable to me.

michaelpb 5y ago
Yeah this project totally completely baffled me. "Autocomplete for the Terminal". What?? Bash has had fully programmable auto-completion for over 20 years [1] -- and that's just one comparitively bare-bones shell, out of dozens that are all free forever and not spyware. Watching their demo didn't help either. At most the behavior seems an incremental improvement over what Bash ships with in most distros, and it's not even clearly better than that (IMO worse, I prefer the trailing slash or color-coding that Bash uses to distinguish file/dir properties vs icons). Joke: Is the "perceived need" really just because macOS's default Bash distro has these features disabled? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_(Unix_shell)#cite_note-60 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_(Unix_shell)#cite_note-60
- bloopernova 5y ago
  It feels like the devs are completely clueless about open source, command line, and modern shell features. There's so many great projects for bash and zsh add-ons like fzf.
  - michaelpb 5y ago
    Right: Assuming good faith, this project seems completely backwards. But if their real product is the telemetry that also ships with it, and they've identified that many newbie developers have a hard time seeing through marketing pages directed at developers (eg like "webscale" stuff from mongodb circa 2010), then it, unfortunately, makes more sense.

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>> it's incumbent on us developers to be more willing to pay for things. If it is worthwhile and not freely available, I will certainly pay. There are some gr

by thesuperbigfrog 5y ago

michaelpb 5y ago
Yeah this project totally completely baffled me. "Autocomplete for the Terminal". What?? Bash has had fully programmable auto-completion for over 20 years [1] -- and that's just one comparitively bare-bones shell, out of dozens that are all free forever and not spyware. Watching their demo didn't help either. At most the behavior seems an incremental improvement over what Bash ships with in most distros, and it's not even clearly better than that (IMO worse, I prefer the trailing slash or color-coding that Bash uses to distinguish file/dir properties vs icons). Joke: Is the "perceived need" really just because macOS's default Bash distro has these features disabled? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_(Unix_shell)#cite_note-60 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash_(Unix_shell)#cite_note-60
- bloopernova 5y ago
  It feels like the devs are completely clueless about open source, command line, and modern shell features. There's so many great projects for bash and zsh add-ons like fzf.
  - michaelpb 5y ago
    Right: Assuming good faith, this project seems completely backwards. But if their real product is the telemetry that also ships with it, and they've identified that many newbie developers have a hard time seeing through marketing pages directed at developers (eg like "webscale" stuff from mongodb circa 2010), then it, unfortunately, makes more sense.