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It seems that this saga goes far beyond Apple. The bigger question this will probably lead to is to what extent operating systems/platforms/intellectual propert

It seems that this saga goes far beyond Apple. The bigger question this will probably lead to is to what extent operating systems/platforms/intellectual property fully belong to a person or entity. How much of it should be "shared" if at all? This will affect game consoles, ATMs, automobiles, and anything with an electronic circuit. It's a property rights conundrum fit for the 21st century.

enos_feedler 5y ago
Ben argues that even the Apple question is murky enough to make it impractical for regulation to step in. Expanding the question only muddies the waters even more. For any actual change to occur the underlying issue needs more focus and clarity. I would say follow the email trails and focus more specifically on Spotify, iBooks and conflict of interest
- halostatue 5y ago
  It’s impractical for the courts to regulate. Congress can pass laws about this sort of behaviour if they wish.
  - Dracophoenix 5y ago
    I doubt it's within Congress's ability or capability. In addition to property rights, this case also involves freedom of speech and association. Congress can't make any laws abridging Apple's freedoms at the expense of the consumer's/developer's or vice versa. The courts don't exist to regulate, they exist to interpret their impartial findings on the basis of current law. What's needed is an answer to these questions and there's no better place to do it than in the courts.
    - halostatue 5y ago
      Marketplaces, even so-called private ones, can ultimately be under the purview of government. If Apple didn’t police scams, you can bet that the FTC would be involved. There are _definitely_ areas where government could interfere. It’s not necessarily inappropriate that the courts are unlikely to interfere in what is fundamentally a legislative responsibility.
paxys 5y ago
The question of ownership will definitely have to be answered soon enough, as people who have been purchasing digital content over the last 20-30 years start to die. If my dad spent hundreds or thousands of dollars purchasing Beatles albums and memorabilia do I have the right to inherit it? Apple says no, but I bet courts in most jurisdictions will disagree.
- Ashanmaril 5y ago
  We're also now reaching the point where the game consoles that first enabled purchasing games digitally are having their storefronts taken down, and suddenly everyone is realizing that their hundreds or even thousands of dollars in digital purchases can just be revoked on a whim.

enos_feedler 5y ago

Ben argues that even the Apple question is murky enough to make it impractical for regulation to step in. Expanding the question only muddies the waters even more. For any actual change to occur the underlying issue needs more focus and clarity. I would say follow the email trails and focus more specifically on Spotify, iBooks and conflict of interest

halostatue 5y ago
It’s impractical for the courts to regulate. Congress can pass laws about this sort of behaviour if they wish.
- Dracophoenix 5y ago
  I doubt it's within Congress's ability or capability. In addition to property rights, this case also involves freedom of speech and association. Congress can't make any laws abridging Apple's freedoms at the expense of the consumer's/developer's or vice versa. The courts don't exist to regulate, they exist to interpret their impartial findings on the basis of current law. What's needed is an answer to these questions and there's no better place to do it than in the courts.
  - halostatue 5y ago
    Marketplaces, even so-called private ones, can ultimately be under the purview of government. If Apple didn’t police scams, you can bet that the FTC would be involved. There are _definitely_ areas where government could interfere. It’s not necessarily inappropriate that the courts are unlikely to interfere in what is fundamentally a legislative responsibility.

paxys 5y ago

The question of ownership will definitely have to be answered soon enough, as people who have been purchasing digital content over the last 20-30 years start to die. If my dad spent hundreds or thousands of dollars purchasing Beatles albums and memorabilia do I have the right to inherit it? Apple says no, but I bet courts in most jurisdictions will disagree.

Ashanmaril 5y ago
We're also now reaching the point where the game consoles that first enabled purchasing games digitally are having their storefronts taken down, and suddenly everyone is realizing that their hundreds or even thousands of dollars in digital purchases can just be revoked on a whim.