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Sad. Cuban cobalt is definitely not conflict free.

by javert 5y ago

xibalba 5y ago
Will you please elaborate? This is interesting and I, and I assume many others, am pretty ignorant with respect to the goings on in Cuba.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  I would assume any hard labor mining with chemical exposure/pollution intensive task is not conflict free.
- 908B64B197 5y ago
  The Cuban regime is known for it's purges against dissidents, homosexuals as well as total censorship and confiscation of goods from it's citizens.
- javert 5y ago
  Cuba is Communist. Do some research about the actual conditions there. It's a slave pen and a hellhole.
vkou 5y ago
Conflict free refers to active civil wars / use of non-punitive slave labour. If you stretch the definition to include Cuba, I will happily stretch it to note that no minerals mined in the US are 'conflict-free', since every mine/pipeline/oil well of note has been built on the bones of a conflict between resource extractors, and communities/groups that they are negatively impacting. Stretch it enough, and the term loses all meaning.
- javert 5y ago
  All labor in Cuba is slave labor. No, the suffering of slaves under communism is not comparable to hippies whining about pipelines.
  - vkou 5y ago
    Oh? All working people are forced to do particular work without pay in Cuba? This is news to me. Here I thought that people there work so that they can keep a roof over their heads, and so that they don't starve. I'm also not sure where the ~400,000 Cubans who own or work for small, private businesses enter your world view. I guess their presence isn't compatible with your politics, so we will have to pretend they don't exist. It's also news to me that only hippies have a problem with pipelines, I'd imagine that among other groups, Native Americans whose lands were stolen from them at gunpoint occasionally lodge a complaint or two about them.
    - javert 5y ago
      People don't own land just because their ancestors occupied it. Do I have a claim to parts of England and Scotland? Literally all land has been stolen at gunpoint in the past. What we should be doing is progressing as a civilization, which requires private property and the freedom to erect infrastructure. Of course, if you will defend the communist, totalitarian, authoritarian, dictatorship Cuba even for one second, there's probably no point in saying any of this to you. Do you consider yourself a leftist or a progressive? Why do leftists and progressives support illiberal, authoritarian regimes? The rest of your comment I'm not going to respond to.
slownews45 5y ago
What's the conflict in Cuba that is leading to conflict mining there. I'm familiar with the wars / slavery elsewhere but wasn't plugged in on cuba wars.

Sad. Cuban cobalt is definitely not conflict free.

by javert 5y ago

Sad. Cuban cobalt is definitely not conflict free.

Will you please elaborate? This is interesting and I, and I assume many others, am pretty ignorant with respect to the goings on in Cuba.

lotsofpulp 5y ago
I would assume any hard labor mining with chemical exposure/pollution intensive task is not conflict free.
908B64B197 5y ago
The Cuban regime is known for it's purges against dissidents, homosexuals as well as total censorship and confiscation of goods from it's citizens.
javert 5y ago
Cuba is Communist. Do some research about the actual conditions there. It's a slave pen and a hellhole.

vkou 5y ago

Conflict free refers to active civil wars / use of non-punitive slave labour. If you stretch the definition to include Cuba, I will happily stretch it to note that no minerals mined in the US are 'conflict-free', since every mine/pipeline/oil well of note has been built on the bones of a conflict between resource extractors, and communities/groups that they are negatively impacting. Stretch it enough, and the term loses all meaning.

javert 5y ago
All labor in Cuba is slave labor. No, the suffering of slaves under communism is not comparable to hippies whining about pipelines.
- vkou 5y ago
  Oh? All working people are forced to do particular work without pay in Cuba? This is news to me. Here I thought that people there work so that they can keep a roof over their heads, and so that they don't starve. I'm also not sure where the ~400,000 Cubans who own or work for small, private businesses enter your world view. I guess their presence isn't compatible with your politics, so we will have to pretend they don't exist. It's also news to me that only hippies have a problem with pipelines, I'd imagine that among other groups, Native Americans whose lands were stolen from them at gunpoint occasionally lodge a complaint or two about them.
  - javert 5y ago
    People don't own land just because their ancestors occupied it. Do I have a claim to parts of England and Scotland? Literally all land has been stolen at gunpoint in the past. What we should be doing is progressing as a civilization, which requires private property and the freedom to erect infrastructure. Of course, if you will defend the communist, totalitarian, authoritarian, dictatorship Cuba even for one second, there's probably no point in saying any of this to you. Do you consider yourself a leftist or a progressive? Why do leftists and progressives support illiberal, authoritarian regimes? The rest of your comment I'm not going to respond to.

slownews45 5y ago

What's the conflict in Cuba that is leading to conflict mining there. I'm familiar with the wars / slavery elsewhere but wasn't plugged in on cuba wars.