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You can stop at #1. Why do I need this when oh-my-zsh exists?

Exuma 5y ago
which oh-my-zsh plugins do you use that can do this? Is there an all-encompassing one or do you need to download tons of different ones like a docker plugin, git plugin, etc
- kubami 5y ago
  But I think it will be the same with Fig. They will take the autocomplete scripts from the vendors and integrate them with Fig.
- mjochim 5y ago
  I’ve been using grml’s zsh config [1] for years. It’s one file, I’ve never installed a single plugin, and it’s been doing a lot. Couple of examples: - When I auto-complete a path, the shell prints all options and I can navigate between them with either tab or arrow keys - For many tools, like git, auto-completion shows an annotated list of possible options/subcommands (and again, you can navigate them with tab or arrow keys) - If I type something like chmod 644 and then start auto-completing the filename, the suggestions exclude every file that is already 644. Also, there is a format to add auto-complete information for more tools. I’ve never actively used it, though, and I don’t know if it’s been adopted by any other shell/tool. I don’t even know if it’s specific to zsh or to grml’s config or to something else entirely. It has just stayed out of my way, while greatly facilitating my shell usage. As a last point, none of these examples have been added recently. They have all been there for years. This is not to pick on fig, but rather to show what zsh has been doing all along (and I suppose other shells like fish, too, but I’ve never tried). [1] https://grml.org/zsh/ https://grml.org/zsh/
nerdponx 5y ago
They are totally different things. This is like asking why you need a computer at home when you already get the newspaper delivered every morning.
- Blahah 5y ago
  It's the other way around. Why buy this newspaper when I already have a computer?
  - nerdponx 5y ago
    Ok, sure. The analogy is silly anyway, but silly arguments beget silly analogies.
quickthrower2 5y ago
As soon as I saw the title I anticipated the Dropbox conversation! I’m guessing people like me who use the shell as a means to an end. Honestly most of the time I’m using git bash “coz it’s there” and hate typing in commands. I actively avoid it. I installed LENS for kubernetes to avoid it. I’d rather write a script in an IDE and run that than be working at the command line. Because then I can treat it like code, review before running and it’s repeatable. I really get the benefits of this tool but I won’t use it because I prefer to avoid excessive command line use - preferring GUI and scripts BUT I do get why it is useful if I have to do interactive command line sessions
- mschrage 5y ago
  Out of curiosity, do the scripts you write take options or arguments? Or are they generally just invoked directly?
  - quickthrower2 5y ago
    Sometimes arguments and sometimes not. Often the argument is simply test vs prod. So I can run it on my machine but also run it from Travis ci. Any connections or secrets would be in the environment. For local I’d create another script to set them up and call the first script. Why? So the secrets don’t end up in the repo by mistake.

which oh-my-zsh plugins do you use that can do this? Is there an all-encompassing one or do you need to download tons of different ones like a docker plugin, git plugin, etc

kubami 5y ago
But I think it will be the same with Fig. They will take the autocomplete scripts from the vendors and integrate them with Fig.
mjochim 5y ago
I’ve been using grml’s zsh config [1] for years. It’s one file, I’ve never installed a single plugin, and it’s been doing a lot. Couple of examples: - When I auto-complete a path, the shell prints all options and I can navigate between them with either tab or arrow keys - For many tools, like git, auto-completion shows an annotated list of possible options/subcommands (and again, you can navigate them with tab or arrow keys) - If I type something like chmod 644 and then start auto-completing the filename, the suggestions exclude every file that is already 644. Also, there is a format to add auto-complete information for more tools. I’ve never actively used it, though, and I don’t know if it’s been adopted by any other shell/tool. I don’t even know if it’s specific to zsh or to grml’s config or to something else entirely. It has just stayed out of my way, while greatly facilitating my shell usage. As a last point, none of these examples have been added recently. They have all been there for years. This is not to pick on fig, but rather to show what zsh has been doing all along (and I suppose other shells like fish, too, but I’ve never tried). [1] https://grml.org/zsh/ https://grml.org/zsh/

nerdponx 5y ago

They are totally different things. This is like asking why you need a computer at home when you already get the newspaper delivered every morning.

Blahah 5y ago
It's the other way around. Why buy this newspaper when I already have a computer?
- nerdponx 5y ago
  Ok, sure. The analogy is silly anyway, but silly arguments beget silly analogies.

quickthrower2 5y ago

As soon as I saw the title I anticipated the Dropbox conversation! I’m guessing people like me who use the shell as a means to an end. Honestly most of the time I’m using git bash “coz it’s there” and hate typing in commands. I actively avoid it. I installed LENS for kubernetes to avoid it. I’d rather write a script in an IDE and run that than be working at the command line. Because then I can treat it like code, review before running and it’s repeatable. I really get the benefits of this tool but I won’t use it because I prefer to avoid excessive command line use - preferring GUI and scripts BUT I do get why it is useful if I have to do interactive command line sessions

mschrage 5y ago
Out of curiosity, do the scripts you write take options or arguments? Or are they generally just invoked directly?
- quickthrower2 5y ago
  Sometimes arguments and sometimes not. Often the argument is simply test vs prod. So I can run it on my machine but also run it from Travis ci. Any connections or secrets would be in the environment. For local I’d create another script to set them up and call the first script. Why? So the secrets don’t end up in the repo by mistake.