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Quality of life outside the big city is better? Do you mean in the suburbs? Or in a small town? Or in a village? Or in the wilderness in a cabin?

bluefirebrand 5y ago
Yes, all of those things are better than living in cities. Less noise, less crowding, less violence and crime, more space, more peace, and more friendliness.
- beforeolives 5y ago
  The friendliness thing is hit and miss, small communities have their own brand of dysfunctions.
- qshaman 5y ago
  How so? There is way more stuff to do in the city, than in rural Ohio (for example), friendliness is very subjective, if you are "one of them" then yes, they will be nice to you, if you look different, then things change. More space? duh, there is a reason no one wants to live there. Less people == less crime and violence (most of the time). Less noise, yeah, thats true.
  - syshum 5y ago
    If you are one for the Night Life, bars, events, etc then sure pre-covid and maybe post covid the city was for you. For many people however "City Life" was for economic reality, that is where the work is, so that is where they were. They did not care about "night life", hated having to shop daily for groceries, etc etc "Boring" suburban life is appealing to ALOT of people, boring life where the most exciting thing that happens is old bob hit something with the mower... As to "one of them", this is true for many communities including the city, when "country folk" come into the city they are often treated with hostility and disdain. In fact I would say poor treatment of "outsiders" is MORE common and MORE pronounced in cities than in suburbs. This however could be my personal experience showing through as I grew up in the country around farmers, and conservative (not political but in the reserved traditional sense of the word) so I was an outsider in the city.
    - qshaman 5y ago
      That is just not true , at least in the US. Minorities and immigrants are treated considerably worst in rural areas than in the cities. I get some people want to live in the country. As I said , most people like to interact with other human beings, outside the Sunday church gathering. Being from a rural town in the US doesn't make an outsider in any city, I would say the other way around is correct, the city is big enough you can find a bar where your country fellas go, people who "hate the city", what really hate is diversity, competition and civility(with exceptions). In the other hand, a family of asian immigrants, for example, will have a hard time, in a white evangelical small town anywhere in the US.
      - syshum 5y ago
        This is not my experience, there is plenty of area's in cities where outsiders will be mugged, beaten, or other wise treated terribly. This idea that only white people treat minorities badly is insane and not fit with actual realty (and is actually racist )
        qshaman 5y ago
        Is it insane tho? Reality you said? Are you sure you want to make that argument? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States , your ”argument” is as racist as Carlson Tucker’s “What’s white supremacy ? anyway”
throwaway3699 5y ago
Yes to all of those, for me at least. I'm not denying there are some upsides to city living (easy access to office being the big one) but I wouldn't move back to one without at least double the salary.

bluefirebrand 5y ago

Yes, all of those things are better than living in cities. Less noise, less crowding, less violence and crime, more space, more peace, and more friendliness.

beforeolives 5y ago
The friendliness thing is hit and miss, small communities have their own brand of dysfunctions.
qshaman 5y ago
How so? There is way more stuff to do in the city, than in rural Ohio (for example), friendliness is very subjective, if you are "one of them" then yes, they will be nice to you, if you look different, then things change. More space? duh, there is a reason no one wants to live there. Less people == less crime and violence (most of the time). Less noise, yeah, thats true.
- syshum 5y ago
  If you are one for the Night Life, bars, events, etc then sure pre-covid and maybe post covid the city was for you. For many people however "City Life" was for economic reality, that is where the work is, so that is where they were. They did not care about "night life", hated having to shop daily for groceries, etc etc "Boring" suburban life is appealing to ALOT of people, boring life where the most exciting thing that happens is old bob hit something with the mower... As to "one of them", this is true for many communities including the city, when "country folk" come into the city they are often treated with hostility and disdain. In fact I would say poor treatment of "outsiders" is MORE common and MORE pronounced in cities than in suburbs. This however could be my personal experience showing through as I grew up in the country around farmers, and conservative (not political but in the reserved traditional sense of the word) so I was an outsider in the city.
  - qshaman 5y ago
    That is just not true , at least in the US. Minorities and immigrants are treated considerably worst in rural areas than in the cities. I get some people want to live in the country. As I said , most people like to interact with other human beings, outside the Sunday church gathering. Being from a rural town in the US doesn't make an outsider in any city, I would say the other way around is correct, the city is big enough you can find a bar where your country fellas go, people who "hate the city", what really hate is diversity, competition and civility(with exceptions). In the other hand, a family of asian immigrants, for example, will have a hard time, in a white evangelical small town anywhere in the US.
    - syshum 5y ago
      This is not my experience, there is plenty of area's in cities where outsiders will be mugged, beaten, or other wise treated terribly. This idea that only white people treat minorities badly is insane and not fit with actual realty (and is actually racist )
      - qshaman 5y ago
        Is it insane tho? Reality you said? Are you sure you want to make that argument? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States , your ”argument” is as racist as Carlson Tucker’s “What’s white supremacy ? anyway”

throwaway3699 5y ago

Yes to all of those, for me at least. I'm not denying there are some upsides to city living (easy access to office being the big one) but I wouldn't move back to one without at least double the salary.