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Whom they are punishing? Elites use private jets and will just laugh at that. Regular Belarusians will have difficulties, yes.

capableweb 5y ago
I guess that's up to who is interpreting the conclusion (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021/05/24/european-council-conclusions-on-belarus-24-may-2021/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021...) It says: > calls on the Council to adopt the necessary measures to ban overflight of EU airspace by Belarusian airlines and prevent access to EU airports of flights operated by such airlines; Now I don't know how private jets usually works, but isn't there some company responsible for the flight itself? Every plane in existence needs to file a flight plan, and I presume that if the flights origin is from Belarus and owned by a Belarus entity, they'll get denied to enter the other airways west/north to Belarus.
- EugeneOZ 5y ago
  So in the worst case they’ll use Lufthansa or Emirates? Okay.
  - capableweb 5y ago
    Not sure how Emirates are relevant, that airline is from the UAB so can't really control their actions exactly. But when it comes to Lufthansa (since they are German), seems unlikely they'll be able to use Lufthansa as using the airspace of Belarus was just advised against... From the same link as before (give it a read: https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021/05/24/european-council-conclusions-on-belarus-24-may-2021/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021...) > calls on all EU-based carriers to avoid overflight of Belarus
    - EugeneOZ 5y ago
      It doesn't matter, they’ll use private jets. You are trying to argue with the little details and missing the whole point. It will not hurt the elites. In the most worst case (if every EU airline will decide to not serve Belarusians), they’ll fly to Russia first and use some russian plane. Or just will use a car - what a tragedy, lol. And it's the ONLY response from EU leaders. Pathetic cowards. Lukashenko now got confirmation that such actions will not be punished.
      - CaptainZapp 5y ago
        > It doesn't matter, they’ll use private jets. Closed airspace means closed airspace. That's not only applicable for commercial flights.
  - ratww 5y ago
    If that's the case, this is a good thing: common people can still use Lufthansa (although Lufthansa might stop having flights there) or Emirates. Elites, however, can't use private jets to fly to Europe anymore. Belavia also seems to belong to the state, so as long as we still have Lufthansa and Emirates, it's hurting the state more than hurting the general population.
    - EugeneOZ 5y ago
      And what stops elites from using Emirates? Or any other company, the name doesn't matter here.
      - ratww 5y ago
        What's your point? That Emirates should also stop flying there in order to inconvenience the elites? That would hurt the population way more than rich people, and EU has no such power.
        EugeneOZ 5y ago
        I'll quote from my other comment in this branch: It will not hurt the elites. In the most worst case (if every EU airline will decide to not serve Belarusians), they’ll fly to Russia first and use some russian plane. Or just will use a car - what a tragedy, lol. And it's the ONLY response from EU leaders. Pathetic cowards. Lukashenko now got confirmation that such actions will not be punished.

capableweb 5y ago

I guess that's up to who is interpreting the conclusion (https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021/05/24/european-council-conclusions-on-belarus-24-may-2021/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021...) It says: > calls on the Council to adopt the necessary measures to ban overflight of EU airspace by Belarusian airlines and prevent access to EU airports of flights operated by such airlines; Now I don't know how private jets usually works, but isn't there some company responsible for the flight itself? Every plane in existence needs to file a flight plan, and I presume that if the flights origin is from Belarus and owned by a Belarus entity, they'll get denied to enter the other airways west/north to Belarus.

EugeneOZ 5y ago
So in the worst case they’ll use Lufthansa or Emirates? Okay.
- capableweb 5y ago
  Not sure how Emirates are relevant, that airline is from the UAB so can't really control their actions exactly. But when it comes to Lufthansa (since they are German), seems unlikely they'll be able to use Lufthansa as using the airspace of Belarus was just advised against... From the same link as before (give it a read: https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021/05/24/european-council-conclusions-on-belarus-24-may-2021/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2021...) > calls on all EU-based carriers to avoid overflight of Belarus
  - EugeneOZ 5y ago
    It doesn't matter, they’ll use private jets. You are trying to argue with the little details and missing the whole point. It will not hurt the elites. In the most worst case (if every EU airline will decide to not serve Belarusians), they’ll fly to Russia first and use some russian plane. Or just will use a car - what a tragedy, lol. And it's the ONLY response from EU leaders. Pathetic cowards. Lukashenko now got confirmation that such actions will not be punished.
    - CaptainZapp 5y ago
      > It doesn't matter, they’ll use private jets. Closed airspace means closed airspace. That's not only applicable for commercial flights.
- ratww 5y ago
  If that's the case, this is a good thing: common people can still use Lufthansa (although Lufthansa might stop having flights there) or Emirates. Elites, however, can't use private jets to fly to Europe anymore. Belavia also seems to belong to the state, so as long as we still have Lufthansa and Emirates, it's hurting the state more than hurting the general population.
  - EugeneOZ 5y ago
    And what stops elites from using Emirates? Or any other company, the name doesn't matter here.
    - ratww 5y ago
      What's your point? That Emirates should also stop flying there in order to inconvenience the elites? That would hurt the population way more than rich people, and EU has no such power.
      - EugeneOZ 5y ago
        I'll quote from my other comment in this branch: It will not hurt the elites. In the most worst case (if every EU airline will decide to not serve Belarusians), they’ll fly to Russia first and use some russian plane. Or just will use a car - what a tragedy, lol. And it's the ONLY response from EU leaders. Pathetic cowards. Lukashenko now got confirmation that such actions will not be punished.