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Google Loses Access to Twitter Stream, Suspends Realtime Search
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- tptacek 15y agoTwitter couldn't have known when Google+ was going to be released when they negotiated a contract expiry of Jul 2.
- richbradshaw 15y agoGoogle would have though.
- marcf 15y agoI doubt Google could predict timelines with any accuracy that many months in advance.
- richbradshaw 15y agoI guess I meant that they could have released Google+ to coincide with the end of the contract, having realised that removing Twitter from realtime and replacing it with G+ would give G+ a traffic boost.
- sek 15y agoVery weird coincidence...
- buss 15y agoThis headline is misleading. The contract Google had with Twitter expired on July 2, 2011. There hasn't been a statement by either company indicating why the contract wasn't extending. Can we please avoid this sort of sensationalism?
- smanek 15y agoDid you read the article? They had quotes from both Google and Twitter saying the contract wasn't extended
- michael_dorfman 15y agoYes, but neither quote offers an explanation as to why the contract wasn't extended.
- smanek 15y agoOur vision is to have google.com/realtime include Google+ information along with other realtime data from a variety of sources. The subtext seems to be about as clear a reason as you can hope for from a giant corporation's PR dept.
- michael_dorfman 15y agoAnd what would the corresponding statement have been if they had been cut off from Twitter against their will? Exactly the same. The quotes offer no evidence as to the motivation.
- yaix 15y ago"Loses access"? It sounds more like they let it expire on purpose. And to me it sounds like a strong message to Twitter and everybody, that G is really serious about G+. "We don't need Twitter, we have our own stream pretty soon."
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- Lewisham 15y agoI read it the other way; that Twitter were upset about G+ and wouldn't re-sign. I noted a [deleted] post at the bottom of this thread, where the replies indicate that "Twitter couldn't have known about G+", hence I guess the [deleted] post had similar sentiments to me. Google having social aspirations has been well-known for a long time. I could very much imagine Twitter writing a contract which says that the stream was only available to Google for as long as Google wasn't directly competing with Twitter. Google couldn't sign such a contract. Google+ is direct Twitter competition.
- thought_alarm 15y agoYou're jumping to conclusions. Google sees this feature as advantageous to Twitter, just as much as Twitter sees it as advantageous to Google. Negotiates to extend the contract could have failed for any number of reasons.
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- selectnull 15y agoIt would seem Google wants a war on multiple fronts. Those who have tried that strategy in the past have generally lost.
- tejaswiy 15y agoApple, Microsoft, Facebook and Twitter and a bunch of other tiny startups against Google. I for one want plus, Android and Google search to come up on top.
- raganwald 15y agoWhy do you feel that your world will be a better place with one company controlling and eavesdropping on every aspect of your communication and search for information? (Yes, my question indicates a very slight amount of bias!)
- Kadrith 15y agoBecause I trust that one company more any any of the other ones. Google's corporate interests are more closely aligned with my personal interests wrt to an open Internet. Sure they have the potential to know a lot about me, but that already happens with a lot of other companies. I used to do consulting for a company (LocatePLUS) that bought databases from different sources and then linked them. They sold this as a service to law enforcement and private investigators on a per query basis.
- glassx 15y agoI've said it before and got a lot of downvotes, but one company controlling everything doesn't really pose a problem to the open web or to users privacy, but instead to other companies, to smaller startups, small entrepreneurs, free market in general, innovation, regulation... Also, unrelated to your reply but... while I understand how people might personally like Google (or Apple, or MS, or whatever), but business is just business, shouldn't be a religion or a sport. People should see beyond the "I like that company".
- Maro 15y agoI never had any use for this Twitter/real-time feature of Google. Perhaps that was the general conclusion so they just dropped it?
- JeremyBanks 15y agoPersonally, I found it very useful for following stories as they were developing, or to see if other people were having issues with a service when I was. Having this integrated into my normal Google searches was convenient, but I guess using Twitter's search directly isn't terrible.
- rxin 15y agoI am pretty sad that this contract is not renewed. I found Google realtime search ironically provided a much better search interface for tweets than the one twitter did.
- gscott 15y agoPlus they already crawl Twitter. It may not be real time over all of Twitter but I bet the accounts with a great deal of followers get crawled every few hours.
- justhw 15y agoWhat is the real value behind the real time search stuff? I never actulally saw anything important, just 100s of people saying the same thing with #bangs. I'm not being ignorant. Englighten me. This is just a question.
- ender7 15y agoI've found it very useful for "breaking news" types of things where the news sites haven't quite gotten up to speed with what is happening, or when it's a niche enough event that it wouldn't get news coverage. Example: "x website is down"
- fauigerzigerk 15y agoI was thinking the same until very recently when I needed to know the tally of that greek austerity vote up to the second. I used Google realtime and it worked wonderfully. It's very annoying that it's gone now.
- hollerith 15y agoSomeone does not know what a hash bang is.
- derrida 15y ago<joke> Of course, a hash bang is a hash functor orgy. </joke> Yes, I think they meant #-tag Hash bang (#!) is used to specify to the operating system where to find the binary to execute a script.
- jgilliam 15y agoWhy would you write a contract in October of 2009 to expire on July 2nd? Such an odd date.
- vaksel 15y agooriginal contract was probably written on May 2009, and then it took them a few months to sign the thing.
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- acg 15y agoI wouldn't be surprised if this is more about Twitter's other customers rather than Twitter's attitude to Google+. There are many who would pay a lot to get one over Google.
- Hisoka 15y agoAnd again, Twitter hasn't figured out a business model yet. No wonder Jack Dorsey left to do Square
- jmonegro 15y agoHe hasn't left yet.
- klbarry 15y agoThis is HUGE for SEO. One of the biggest talked about and tested things in 2011 was Twitter's effect on rankings.
- bane 15y agoI actually noticed that the realtime search had more or less stopped showing up in my results anyway...which was nice because I always just ignored them anyways. Did anybody find them useful? Or is maybe that's the reason Google is letting that go? It's too bad because it's clear an enormous development effort had gone into making it possible.
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- entrepreneurial 15y agoWonder why they quit it? You can also search other sites (facebook, blogger, etc) using Realtime Search.
- jcampbell1 15y agoDid anyone actually notice and give a damn? I personally remember those animated twitter stream search results as being a useless distraction, and I am quite glad they are gone. I think google realized they were of little relevance to the typical searcher and Google now has enough data to decide the results aren't worth paying much for. In fact, Google has already long since pulled the realtime search results from the primary serps.
- ben1040 15y agoI personally find Twitter to mostly be noise, so I really got no value out of that real time stream result. If I really wanted to search Twitter results, I'd have gone to the Twitter search page, not Google.
- riffraff 15y agothe web is also mostly noise, what made google's success was the ability to separate the signal. Alas, I don't think they were anywhere close to doing that with the real time search anyway.
- checker 15y agoLive search was awesome to find out about breaking news before even the news wires got it. When there was a bomb scare in Times Square, I remember reading the tweets and getting some great information.
- altrego99 15y agoI didn't notice before reading this... but I will be sorry to miss the instant confirmation of earthquake tremors that I seemed to feel minutes ago.
- Hisoka 15y agoI don't give a damn. Yes, there are some useful tweets but 99% of them are trivial noise. Google probably didn't invested a lot of time in filtering the noise. So getting rid of it was the best decision.
- kristopher 15y agoTwitter Firehose was never about Realtime Search but more about adding an additional signal to their crawler and perhaps to Google News. When the Firehose was enabled, it was not surprising to see GoogleBot immediately after a new link was posted via Twitter.