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I agree with your general sentiment, but not about the traffic lights. The whole reason traffic lights work is because 99.9% of the time, those hulking monstros

I agree with your general sentiment, but not about the traffic lights. The whole reason traffic lights work is because 99.9% of the time, those hulking monstrosities we call cars, can just barrel right through on a green light, and when they can't, it's because something with a big loud siren is making noise. Bikes can't do that. I think the way forward ultimately involves re-thinking the way we architect transport networks: - Replacing large non-trunk roads and traffic lights with narrower roads and roundabouts - Increasing the number, size, and separation of bike lanes - Having bike lanes that cut through otherwise meandering road sections. This is significant, because roads are often designed to go in a very inefficient path for all sorts of reasons that don't apply to bikes. - Having mixed bike/car roads where the speed limit is 30 kph.

nomorewords 5y ago
> - Having mixed bike/car roads where the speed limit is 30 kph. Yeah, 30kph seems to low (hell, even I feel the 50kph limit in cities here is too low) to be a road limit for a mixed bike/car road. I think isolation is a better strategy and will lead to less accidents due to nervous drivers having their own lane instead of limiting themselves to 30kph behind some biker.
- jeroenhd 5y ago
  Here, 30kph is the default for dense city streets, with 50 for the larger roads where bikes get their separate lanes and 70 or higher for large roads carrying large amounts of car traffic where bikes cannot go. The best solution is a mix of efficient road design, isolation, and speed limits where they make sense (which is pretty much everywhere except the through-roads). A large amount of 30kph bike/car roads are fine if the road network and city zoning is well-optimized.