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What's the community-driven alternative?

• Google234 5y ago
  There is no other micro kernel OS being developed with similar effort.
  • zibzab 5y ago
    https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/blog/the-power-of-zephyr-rtos/ https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/blog/the-power-of-zephyr-...
  • gpderetta 5y ago
    GNU Hurd will be released any time now!
    • 3v1n0 5y ago
      /s?
      • gpderetta 5y ago
        Nooo, completely serious! /s
  • loudmax 5y ago
    There is seL4: https://sel4.systems/ https://sel4.systems/ The resources going into seL4 appear to be nowhere near "similar effort" to what Google is putting into Fuchsia, but it is a legitimate alternative.
    • sanxiyn 5y ago
      Sadly CSIRO axed entire seL4 team, "to focus on AI".
      • snvzz 5y ago
        Sadly yes, but it only happened after seL4 Foundation[0] was established, and thus seL4 became independent from CSIRO. [0]: https://sel4.systems/ https://sel4.systems/
• nicoburns 5y ago
  Linux
  • cookguyruffles 5y ago
    This is the correct answer. Do not allow a subtly different technical design distract you from the largest switcheroo here: this is a single-vendor enterprise OS delivered under the guise of open source, it comes with all the trappings of a single-vendor enterprise OS. Let's not be too quick to forget when Android first started out, all the idealism about the wonders of a free software mobile OS. A decade later, it's almost impossible to buy an Android phone that hasn't been strongarmed (no pun intended) into including Play Services, Chrome and Gmail, often including through threats to the manufacturer's unrelated businesses. We're older and wiser, avoid this garbage like the plague, and don't fall for all the same old tricks.
    • nicoburns 5y ago
      Yes, although at least both Android and Fuchsia are released under genuinely open source licenses, even if they development model isn't open.
      • cookguyruffles 5y ago
        These licenses are totally meaningless when Google make anti-competitive threats to their partners for attempting to exercise that license. They benefit from all the marketing of their vendor ecosystem in the public eye using the open thing, while quietly holding a gun to everyone's head in the background. That is the absolute antithesis of what "genuine open source" is supposed to be about, it is a marketing ruse and you've fallen for it.
    • eingaeKaiy8ujie 5y ago
      I have a Pixel phone and run GrapheneOS on it. No Play Services, no Google apps, only open source software from F-Droid. Works really well.
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• iib 5y ago
  I guess GNU Hurd [1], jokingly speaking, but correct from an architecture (ukernel) point of view. The real community-driven alternative is Linux, which started and still is a monolithic kernel, but the multiple features it got along the years may make the distinction even less clear [2]. It seems it will also accept some Rust code in the future, so the difference may drop even in languages used. [3] [1] https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/ [2] https://qconlondon.com/system/files/presentation-slides/thomas_graf_-_ebpf_-_rethinking_the_linux_kernel.pdf https://qconlondon.com/system/files/presentation-slides/thom... [3] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CANiq72khBa2GcB6-PHM3A44Y90d6vzYAS=BVpk3nT4B6u+NVDw@mail.gmail.com/T/#mb5e524dae9d5a5815c6e68eb36b9bde4e87c861d https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CANiq72khBa2GcB6-PHM3A44Y90d6vz...
• tormeh 5y ago
  Redox OS is pretty cool, but without at least one big corporate sponsor it won't be able to amass the ecosystem needed to be viable for most use-cases. That said, I believe it's almost self-hosting now, so definitely a real OS that you can run software in today.
• snvzz 5y ago
  Genode[0], which you can follow on the Genodians[1] blog. [0]: https://genode.org/ https://genode.org/ [1]: https://genodians.org/ https://genodians.org/