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Leaves me feeling a little contemplative... will the stuff I'm logging in my project's issue tracker still exist in 2040? Will my project be relevant, or even r

by nyx 5y ago

Leaves me feeling a little contemplative... will the stuff I'm logging in my project's issue tracker still exist in 2040? Will my project be relevant, or even remembered? Is the company we're working for even going to be around?

slver 5y ago
How does that matter to you
nly 5y ago
There are still issues that come up at my work that nobody wants to tackle because that part of the company is running off fortran. I predict JavaScript will be the Fortran of 2040
- dkdbejwi383 5y ago
  If I can get the legendary FORTRAN sacks of gold, I’ll happily take Promise.then.then.then.then in 2040
  - TeMPOraL 5y ago
    I think the time to get rich off JavaScript is now - I hear webshops still pay ludicrous salaries, but junior web developers are being manufactured in great quantity, so the market will eventually saturate.
    - capableweb 5y ago
      As all markets, juniors are everywhere and easy to hire but what companies really want are good developers, and those will always be hard to find.
      - DonHopkins 5y ago
        All the good COBOL developers had themselves frozen. https://donhopkins.medium.com/cobol-forever-1a49f7d28a39 https://donhopkins.medium.com/cobol-forever-1a49f7d28a39
        TeMPOraL 5y ago
        Another way of looking at this is: it's a great life extension hack! One of the problems with cryonics is, how to motivate future people to revive you in the first place? Learning (and having it documented) a technology on which global economy is going to be critically dependent for decades to come sounds like it should do the trick. (Another problem is, how to motivate earlier future people to keep you around until your value becomes apparent, which will likely happen only when your services are direly needed on short notice.)
- slver 5y ago
  JavaScript isn't going anywhere, I believe. And I'm not saying this because I think it's the best ever, or because I don't learn from history and how things change. It's the nature of the web. We're still dragging things from HTTP/0.9 and and from HTML 1.0 along. But also, JS is a capable script engine with millions of USD put into engineering VMs into it, and the networks effects are inescapable. I don't see WASM replacing it either. They'll be used in tandem.
VortexDream 5y ago
I still regularly see code here that's 10-15 years old and some code that's older than the company itself. It's both surprising and a bit scary to see how much code is still flying around that hasn't (or has barely) been touched in so long. Or even the idea that code can transcend companies and end up in entirely different places.
pjc50 5y ago
At my previous workplace some of the copyright headers said 1991. However, it had been through the source control of Theseus; CVS -> SourceSafe -> SVN. When I left there was talk of moving to git, but since the build system checked in binaries that was a serious obstacle. The bug tracking similarly had been through at least one reset.

by nyx 5y ago

slver 5y ago

How does that matter to you

nly 5y ago

There are still issues that come up at my work that nobody wants to tackle because that part of the company is running off fortran. I predict JavaScript will be the Fortran of 2040

dkdbejwi383 5y ago
If I can get the legendary FORTRAN sacks of gold, I’ll happily take Promise.then.then.then.then in 2040
- TeMPOraL 5y ago
  I think the time to get rich off JavaScript is now - I hear webshops still pay ludicrous salaries, but junior web developers are being manufactured in great quantity, so the market will eventually saturate.
  - capableweb 5y ago
    As all markets, juniors are everywhere and easy to hire but what companies really want are good developers, and those will always be hard to find.
    - DonHopkins 5y ago
      All the good COBOL developers had themselves frozen. https://donhopkins.medium.com/cobol-forever-1a49f7d28a39 https://donhopkins.medium.com/cobol-forever-1a49f7d28a39
      - TeMPOraL 5y ago
        Another way of looking at this is: it's a great life extension hack! One of the problems with cryonics is, how to motivate future people to revive you in the first place? Learning (and having it documented) a technology on which global economy is going to be critically dependent for decades to come sounds like it should do the trick. (Another problem is, how to motivate earlier future people to keep you around until your value becomes apparent, which will likely happen only when your services are direly needed on short notice.)
slver 5y ago
JavaScript isn't going anywhere, I believe. And I'm not saying this because I think it's the best ever, or because I don't learn from history and how things change. It's the nature of the web. We're still dragging things from HTTP/0.9 and and from HTML 1.0 along. But also, JS is a capable script engine with millions of USD put into engineering VMs into it, and the networks effects are inescapable. I don't see WASM replacing it either. They'll be used in tandem.

VortexDream 5y ago

I still regularly see code here that's 10-15 years old and some code that's older than the company itself. It's both surprising and a bit scary to see how much code is still flying around that hasn't (or has barely) been touched in so long. Or even the idea that code can transcend companies and end up in entirely different places.

pjc50 5y ago

At my previous workplace some of the copyright headers said 1991. However, it had been through the source control of Theseus; CVS -> SourceSafe -> SVN. When I left there was talk of moving to git, but since the build system checked in binaries that was a serious obstacle. The bug tracking similarly had been through at least one reset.