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It’s just a cat and mouse game. I see your address book and verify that the entries aren’t in your friends list and I ask again until you give me the real stuff

It’s just a cat and mouse game. I see your address book and verify that the entries aren’t in your friends list and I ask again until you give me the real stuff. And then your ROM devs figure out how to make the data more convincing. And then I start running AI algorithms on it. It’s like captcha - there’s no end to the competition. And in the meantime you can’t see your timeline until you give me the real stuff. Or, Google and Apple tell me to f*cking cut it out and threaten to toss me out of the App Store.

swiley 5y ago
I don't keep contacts in the standard app so I wouldn't be allowed on Facebook anymore then. At some point they can just tell you to upload your contacts and drivers license via email or a web form if you want to use the app, WTF do you plan on doing then?
- CountSessine 5y ago
  I don't keep contacts in the standard app so I wouldn't be allowed on Facebook anymore then. Probably for the best. Social media is poison. At some point they can just tell you to upload your contacts and drivers license via email or a web form if you want to use the app, WTF do you plan on doing then? I'm really trying to help you understand why Google and Apple can't rely on OS-level caps and perms. If you don't understand how app devs can cheat you blind regardless of what system-level perms you set, you're clearly not an app dev. I can ID your device and send it encrypted back to my server. I can find your non-standard address book and read it off the user partition by nicely offering you a utility service like backup. It's gzipped and encrypted and sent back to my db and forget about your privacy. I can do a lot more on your ROM'ed android device than you expect, and I can do it all with permissions and a bit of social engineering. Now just imagine what I can do with your grandma.
  - swiley 5y ago
    I have older family members that have uploaded images of their state ID because the app they wanted to use told them to. No amount of careful OS design could fix that and the two companies running App Stores are unwilling to perform the curation required to fix it. At this point the only safe curated app store is F-Droid.

swiley 5y ago

I don't keep contacts in the standard app so I wouldn't be allowed on Facebook anymore then. At some point they can just tell you to upload your contacts and drivers license via email or a web form if you want to use the app, WTF do you plan on doing then?

CountSessine 5y ago
I don't keep contacts in the standard app so I wouldn't be allowed on Facebook anymore then. Probably for the best. Social media is poison. At some point they can just tell you to upload your contacts and drivers license via email or a web form if you want to use the app, WTF do you plan on doing then? I'm really trying to help you understand why Google and Apple can't rely on OS-level caps and perms. If you don't understand how app devs can cheat you blind regardless of what system-level perms you set, you're clearly not an app dev. I can ID your device and send it encrypted back to my server. I can find your non-standard address book and read it off the user partition by nicely offering you a utility service like backup. It's gzipped and encrypted and sent back to my db and forget about your privacy. I can do a lot more on your ROM'ed android device than you expect, and I can do it all with permissions and a bit of social engineering. Now just imagine what I can do with your grandma.
- swiley 5y ago
  I have older family members that have uploaded images of their state ID because the app they wanted to use told them to. No amount of careful OS design could fix that and the two companies running App Stores are unwilling to perform the curation required to fix it. At this point the only safe curated app store is F-Droid.