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This is easy to objectively disprove. Disc brakes offer better braking power, don't wear as quickly, and don't fade on long hills. They also keep the braking an

This is easy to objectively disprove. Disc brakes offer better braking power, don't wear as quickly, and don't fade on long hills. They also keep the braking and structural parts of the wheel independent, so a dented rim doesn't prevent the brakes from working, and wear from braking doesn't structurally compromise the wheel. There is a lot of fud about discs in the road-biking circles, but it doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. If you have rim brakes, and you like them, then great! Don't malign them because you dislike change though.

bigfudge 5y ago
I wasn't saying anything about discs for general use. Specifically for racing, though, you are wrong: many pros are on the record as saying the braking makes little to no difference in a race and the cost of time lost when you can't get a wheel change is huge. It's already happened in multiple races. > Disc brakes offer better braking power, don't wear as quickly, and don't fade on long hills These things are true, but in my experience the limiting factor is almost always grip. I've never been unable to lock up both wheels on road tyres (this is definitely not true off road where the advantage is obvious). This is even more the case in the wet, where disc brakes are touted as even more of an advantage. I do think people often use the straw man of crap cantis or centrpulls on steel rims. On maintenance I think it's less clear cut — if you don't maintain discs regularly they can get sticky and there is _nothing_ more annoying than disc rub, and this is worse on the road than off-road where a bit of grime in discs is to be expected and tolerated (and no worse than mud fouling rim brakes). > Don't malign them because you dislike change though. You've jumped straight to accusing me of being a luddite. I actually don't like the _look_ of discs on road bikes but will get them on my next bike for the increased tyre clearance. But I do have them on all my mountain bikes...
- Rantenki 5y ago
  I'm not trying to start a flame-war, or accuse you of being a luddite. I was just saying that you were: maligning disc brakes, and didn't like change. The post you replied to was about change for change's (and profit's) sake, to which you responded that that was the case for disc brakes, along with calling them stupid for racing. Again, if you prefer them, aesthetically or otherwise, that's fine. They're not stupid though, or are they a money grab.

bigfudge 5y ago

I wasn't saying anything about discs for general use. Specifically for racing, though, you are wrong: many pros are on the record as saying the braking makes little to no difference in a race and the cost of time lost when you can't get a wheel change is huge. It's already happened in multiple races. > Disc brakes offer better braking power, don't wear as quickly, and don't fade on long hills These things are true, but in my experience the limiting factor is almost always grip. I've never been unable to lock up both wheels on road tyres (this is definitely not true off road where the advantage is obvious). This is even more the case in the wet, where disc brakes are touted as even more of an advantage. I do think people often use the straw man of crap cantis or centrpulls on steel rims. On maintenance I think it's less clear cut — if you don't maintain discs regularly they can get sticky and there is _nothing_ more annoying than disc rub, and this is worse on the road than off-road where a bit of grime in discs is to be expected and tolerated (and no worse than mud fouling rim brakes). > Don't malign them because you dislike change though. You've jumped straight to accusing me of being a luddite. I actually don't like the _look_ of discs on road bikes but will get them on my next bike for the increased tyre clearance. But I do have them on all my mountain bikes...

Rantenki 5y ago
I'm not trying to start a flame-war, or accuse you of being a luddite. I was just saying that you were: maligning disc brakes, and didn't like change. The post you replied to was about change for change's (and profit's) sake, to which you responded that that was the case for disc brakes, along with calling them stupid for racing. Again, if you prefer them, aesthetically or otherwise, that's fine. They're not stupid though, or are they a money grab.