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> I do too, but this is the exact problem here. Twitter colored that free speech with what they thought was right. I think this is where we disagree. Yes, twi

> I do too, but this is the exact problem here. Twitter colored that free speech with what they thought was right. I think this is where we disagree. Yes, twitter added their own opinion, but as far as I'm concerned why is that worse than anyone adding their own opinion to it? My point is twitter adding their opinion should be as inconsequential as a random person with 6 followers replying to the tweet saying "this is fake news." The only difference is because people give twitter more credibility than a random stranger, which is the fundamental problem of trust in society. No amount of laws can fix this if you truly advocate for free speech. People just need to educate themselves better about what to believe.

actuator 5y ago
It might just be labeling today, next time it might be suppression of posts in feeds, eventually they might just shadow block posts or remove them entirely.
- Judgmentality 5y ago
  Yes, that point is valid. I simplified my argument for the sake of conversation, but there are really two other very real issues I didn't address because it would wildly increase the scope of this conversation (and I don't want to spend hours here). There's the platform versus publisher issue, where companies are arguably trying to be both. And there's the social media companies already using black box algorithms to control their feeds. So I'd argue with twitter everything already falls under the latter issue, which doesn't mean it's okay just that this is larger issue for any social media company and it's more complicated than just free speech (which is already more nuanced than I've described). So yes, once twitter begins censoring opinions (and arguably they already do simply by having an algorithm make a feed for you) then they are equally culpable. As to the corporation vs government issue, yes I'd prefer to hold governments accountable for these things and I agree they should be the entities that handle this. But I see that as an ideal and meanwhile I care more about practical solutions to help us improve where we are and hopefully get there some day.
  - actuator 5y ago
    I agree with your elaborated points. :)

actuator 5y ago

It might just be labeling today, next time it might be suppression of posts in feeds, eventually they might just shadow block posts or remove them entirely.

Judgmentality 5y ago
Yes, that point is valid. I simplified my argument for the sake of conversation, but there are really two other very real issues I didn't address because it would wildly increase the scope of this conversation (and I don't want to spend hours here). There's the platform versus publisher issue, where companies are arguably trying to be both. And there's the social media companies already using black box algorithms to control their feeds. So I'd argue with twitter everything already falls under the latter issue, which doesn't mean it's okay just that this is larger issue for any social media company and it's more complicated than just free speech (which is already more nuanced than I've described). So yes, once twitter begins censoring opinions (and arguably they already do simply by having an algorithm make a feed for you) then they are equally culpable. As to the corporation vs government issue, yes I'd prefer to hold governments accountable for these things and I agree they should be the entities that handle this. But I see that as an ideal and meanwhile I care more about practical solutions to help us improve where we are and hopefully get there some day.
- actuator 5y ago
  I agree with your elaborated points. :)