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Not spreading FUD, just pointing out inconsistency. "Yes, Apple devices do collect some data" should be the end of that sentence. Any data that is collected on

Not spreading FUD, just pointing out inconsistency. "Yes, Apple devices do collect some data" should be the end of that sentence. Any data that is collected on the device and sent to apple is not private. It doesn't matter if Apple doesn't share it with other advertisers. Apple does advertising itself. There is no difference between it an a 3d party advertiser in terms of data they have access to. Once you get past that point and accept that there is no privacy, then its just a matter of how much you trust companies with your data. If you wanna claim that you trust Apple with your data, that is your own personal choice. As far as what Apple does or doesn't with that data, it's laughable that the argument for privacy is them refusing to unlock a phone. Security isn't determined by what computers/users/companies do or don't do, its determined by what is possible. And when it comes to data, its very possible, as proven by real life events, for them to turn over your data to law enforcement. Again, whether or not you care, thats a personal choice. But saying that Apple cares about privacy is just dead wrong, you have either ironically fallen victim to the Apple adverting about privacy, or you have an intrinsic bias towards Apple because you like their products which leads you to discount basic facts.

threeseed 5y ago
> Any data that is collected on the device and sent to apple is not private Please providence evidence of this claim and specify which data is not private. Apple uses differential privacy and removes PII which has been documented in the iOS Security Guide.
- ActorNightly 5y ago
  https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208650 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208650 >Apple uses differential privacy and removes PII which has been documented in the iOS Security Guide. Apple also said your iCloud photos are secure, and then look what happened in 2014.
enraged_camel 5y ago
You sound like some sort of privacy purist, and your stance with regards to privacy is extremist. It is not a stance shared by most people, and I think you know that already. Indeed, most people understand that their iPhones collecting anonymized diagnostic data and sending it to Apple is not some gross violation of privacy, and that it sure as shit doesn't mean Apple does not care about privacy. If that's the hill you want to die on, that's your call, but you should perhaps realize that blaming me of bias towards Apple is not the winning argument you think it is.

threeseed 5y ago

> Any data that is collected on the device and sent to apple is not private Please providence evidence of this claim and specify which data is not private. Apple uses differential privacy and removes PII which has been documented in the iOS Security Guide.

ActorNightly 5y ago
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208650 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208650 >Apple uses differential privacy and removes PII which has been documented in the iOS Security Guide. Apple also said your iCloud photos are secure, and then look what happened in 2014.

enraged_camel 5y ago

You sound like some sort of privacy purist, and your stance with regards to privacy is extremist. It is not a stance shared by most people, and I think you know that already. Indeed, most people understand that their iPhones collecting anonymized diagnostic data and sending it to Apple is not some gross violation of privacy, and that it sure as shit doesn't mean Apple does not care about privacy. If that's the hill you want to die on, that's your call, but you should perhaps realize that blaming me of bias towards Apple is not the winning argument you think it is.