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So, "pure" is the opposite of "impure" and "lazy" is the opposite of "strict" (but often cited as "imperative). Haskell is a pure, lazy functional programming l

So, "pure" is the opposite of "impure" and "lazy" is the opposite of "strict" (but often cited as "imperative). Haskell is a pure, lazy functional programming language. I'll talk about purity here, and not about laziness. Pure means that functions are not allowed to have side effects. More formally, a pure function can only use its inputs (parameters) to generate its output. Therefore, a pure function can't modify a global variable, print to the screen etc. because those are all side effects (more on this later). The benefit of this is threefold: * Testing is much safer and generally easier. You just have to test the various inputs and edge cases and you can pretty much guarantee the function is 100% correct. You can't get this guarantee in impure languages. * Inherently concurrent. Since functions don't modify any global state, you're free to make this as concurrent as you want without worrying about "thread safety" and all that. * Increased modularity. Pure functions are highly portable, since they don't modify state they can be used for any library if needed, really. In an impure language, you often have to modify functions for use in a more general sense as a library. Of course, the real world has side effects. Almost every program we run is a side effect, since we're giving it input from the world and it uses that to print to a screen. So how can a program be pure at all??? Without going into too much detail, there are ways in Haskell to isolate impurity to a small part of the code which is clearly marked as impure. This impure code is responsible for say, reading a string from the user input. This string can then be used to make function calls to pure functions. So the way you do things is to put all your business logic and such in pure functions, then the impure functions just deal with shuttling values to and from the real world. You can test pure functions with theorem checkers and you test impure functions with unit tests and integration tests. Haskell has a steep learning curve since it has so many concepts which still simply haven't made it into more industry-standard languages. This is getting better with language such as Scala becoming more mainstream. I really love Haskell and even if I don't use it on my day-to-day, it is great to hack out a Haskell program every once in awhile. Hope this helps! - Mitchell

ankrgyl 15y ago
Great explanation. Just a small point though, > "lazy" is the opposite of "imperative." should be: "lazy" is the opposite of "strict" or "eager". "Imperative", in this context, is the opposite of "functional".
- chc 15y ago
  It's basically impossible to have a lazy imperative language, though, because "a sequence of statements" is the definition of an imperative program, and laziness leaves the ordering of that sequence undefined.
  - ankrgyl 15y ago
    Scala pulls it off. Here is one example: http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2006/07/scala-futures-and-lazy-evaluation.html http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2006/07/scala-futures-and-lazy-...
    - chc 15y ago
      I don't mean to split hairs, but Scala isn't a lazily evaluated language — it's a strict language that allows optional lazy evaluation, and AFAIK it only really works well if you're programming Scala in a more or less functional style. I'm pretty sure Scala's lazy values still lead to unpredictable behavior if you lazy up something that has side effects.
michaelschade 15y ago
Essentially implied by what Mitchell has said, but it's good to point out that pure functions have referential transparency, which means that for a given input, the function will always give the same output. (So, `myFunc 7' always yields the same answer), which makes it easier to reason about your code and have more reliable tests against these functions. More reading here: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Functional_programming#Purity http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Functional_programming#Pu...
mattdeboard 15y ago
Great explanation, actually. But one question. I thought functional languages were "pure" throughout. I mean, I thought the whole point of a functional language is that there are no side effects and every expression returns some value. How is "pure" distinct from "functional"? edit: BTW, Haskell DOES have a steep learning curve, and the inherent recursion breaks my brain. Even simple things like: `combos = []` `combos = combos + 'foo'` hurt, because counterintuitively (to me, anyway) this winds up in infinite recursion. I'm very used to OOP so this sort of thing is hard on me. I'm old though. edit: I'm a little bummed out by the downvotes on my original question. It was an honest academic question I had and was answered splendidly. I was not attacking Haskell whatsoever. I apologize if anyone took it as anything other than an honest question.
- kemiller 15y ago
  "Pure" in this context is basically short for "purely functional." Most functional languages have exceptions -- notably for I/O. Achieving 100% functional behavior is, it turns out, really really hard, and that's what makes Haskell notable.
- mitchellh 15y ago
  Great explanation, actually. But one question. I thought functional languages were "pure" throughout. I mean, I thought the whole point of a functional language is that there are no side effects and every expression returns some value. How is "pure" distinct from "functional"? Oh, no no. Pure is not required for functional programming. Functional programming is mostly defined as the ability to pass around functions as 1st class data types. In fact, I noticed on your GitHub you do some Python. Here is functional programming in Python: # Sum a list in Python using FP items = [1,2,3,4,5] function = lambda x, y: x + y reduce(function, items) # => 15 # The equivalent in haskell: foldr1 (+) [1,2,3,4,5] Pure is a stricter form of functional programming, which Haskell enforces. edit: BTW, Haskell DOES have a steep learning curve, and the inherent recursion breaks my brain. Even simple things like: `combos = []` `combos = combos + 'foo'` hurt, because counterintuitively (to me, anyway) this winds up in infinite recursion. I'm very used to OOP so this sort of thing is hard on me. I'm old though. You're stepping now into the "lazy" aspect of Haskell. You're allowed to have infinite recursion in Haskell because it is only evaluated when needed. I don't really want to get into it here since there are many resources online about it :) But this also isn't inherent to functional programming or pure function programming.

ankrgyl 15y ago

Great explanation. Just a small point though, > "lazy" is the opposite of "imperative." should be: "lazy" is the opposite of "strict" or "eager". "Imperative", in this context, is the opposite of "functional".

chc 15y ago
It's basically impossible to have a lazy imperative language, though, because "a sequence of statements" is the definition of an imperative program, and laziness leaves the ordering of that sequence undefined.
- ankrgyl 15y ago
  Scala pulls it off. Here is one example: http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2006/07/scala-futures-and-lazy-evaluation.html http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2006/07/scala-futures-and-lazy-...
  - chc 15y ago
    I don't mean to split hairs, but Scala isn't a lazily evaluated language — it's a strict language that allows optional lazy evaluation, and AFAIK it only really works well if you're programming Scala in a more or less functional style. I'm pretty sure Scala's lazy values still lead to unpredictable behavior if you lazy up something that has side effects.

michaelschade 15y ago

Essentially implied by what Mitchell has said, but it's good to point out that pure functions have referential transparency, which means that for a given input, the function will always give the same output. (So, `myFunc 7' always yields the same answer), which makes it easier to reason about your code and have more reliable tests against these functions. More reading here: http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Functional_programming#Purity http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Functional_programming#Pu...

mattdeboard 15y ago

Great explanation, actually. But one question. I thought functional languages were "pure" throughout. I mean, I thought the whole point of a functional language is that there are no side effects and every expression returns some value. How is "pure" distinct from "functional"? edit: BTW, Haskell DOES have a steep learning curve, and the inherent recursion breaks my brain. Even simple things like: `combos = []` `combos = combos + 'foo'` hurt, because counterintuitively (to me, anyway) this winds up in infinite recursion. I'm very used to OOP so this sort of thing is hard on me. I'm old though. edit: I'm a little bummed out by the downvotes on my original question. It was an honest academic question I had and was answered splendidly. I was not attacking Haskell whatsoever. I apologize if anyone took it as anything other than an honest question.

kemiller 15y ago
"Pure" in this context is basically short for "purely functional." Most functional languages have exceptions -- notably for I/O. Achieving 100% functional behavior is, it turns out, really really hard, and that's what makes Haskell notable.
mitchellh 15y ago
Great explanation, actually. But one question. I thought functional languages were "pure" throughout. I mean, I thought the whole point of a functional language is that there are no side effects and every expression returns some value. How is "pure" distinct from "functional"? Oh, no no. Pure is not required for functional programming. Functional programming is mostly defined as the ability to pass around functions as 1st class data types. In fact, I noticed on your GitHub you do some Python. Here is functional programming in Python: # Sum a list in Python using FP items = [1,2,3,4,5] function = lambda x, y: x + y reduce(function, items) # => 15 # The equivalent in haskell: foldr1 (+) [1,2,3,4,5] Pure is a stricter form of functional programming, which Haskell enforces. edit: BTW, Haskell DOES have a steep learning curve, and the inherent recursion breaks my brain. Even simple things like: `combos = []` `combos = combos + 'foo'` hurt, because counterintuitively (to me, anyway) this winds up in infinite recursion. I'm very used to OOP so this sort of thing is hard on me. I'm old though. You're stepping now into the "lazy" aspect of Haskell. You're allowed to have infinite recursion in Haskell because it is only evaluated when needed. I don't really want to get into it here since there are many resources online about it :) But this also isn't inherent to functional programming or pure function programming.