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If anything for a first time user Macs are less intuitive. The whole window system is very different from everything out there. The app does not die when you cl

If anything for a first time user Macs are less intuitive. The whole window system is very different from everything out there. The app does not die when you close the window. One other thing the author forgot to mention is, in most cases one has to eject the DMG manually and then delete it if you want to clean up your downloads folder. Else you will just have this mounted until the next reboot. I know many people that just just the app from the mounted DMG itself without ever using the one in applications.

cytzol 5y ago
> The whole window system is very different from everything out there. The app does not die when you close the window. But that's one of my favourite things about it! I remember one time when I had to use Windows after being away from its window-based paradigm (rather than an application-based paradigm) for several years. I had a single window open in Sublime Text, and I wanted to close that window then open a new one. So I closed that window, then instinctively reached for the menu bar to select 'Open Project'. Of course, the menu bar was no longer there, because it was part of the window I just closed. And then when I opened Sublime Text to get the menu bar back, it re-opened its last open document, which was the window I was trying to get rid of.
- alkonaut 5y ago
  Keeping the application running when the last main form is closed is a Mac-ism enabled only by global application menu. It has benefits and drawbacks, but it's pretty clear that without it there is no intuitive way to do that. I can assure you that I repeat the fumbling you describe but the other way around on mac. It's just two different UXes and which operations they allow (or can be intuitively done) will differ because of some fundamental earlier choices such as e.g. how many mouse buttons the user can be expected to have, or whether a program can show a global menu.
robertoandred 5y ago
> The app does not die when you close the window. Thank goodness for that. The way Windows conflates apps and windows is just a mess.

cytzol 5y ago

> The whole window system is very different from everything out there. The app does not die when you close the window. But that's one of my favourite things about it! I remember one time when I had to use Windows after being away from its window-based paradigm (rather than an application-based paradigm) for several years. I had a single window open in Sublime Text, and I wanted to close that window then open a new one. So I closed that window, then instinctively reached for the menu bar to select 'Open Project'. Of course, the menu bar was no longer there, because it was part of the window I just closed. And then when I opened Sublime Text to get the menu bar back, it re-opened its last open document, which was the window I was trying to get rid of.

alkonaut 5y ago
Keeping the application running when the last main form is closed is a Mac-ism enabled only by global application menu. It has benefits and drawbacks, but it's pretty clear that without it there is no intuitive way to do that. I can assure you that I repeat the fumbling you describe but the other way around on mac. It's just two different UXes and which operations they allow (or can be intuitively done) will differ because of some fundamental earlier choices such as e.g. how many mouse buttons the user can be expected to have, or whether a program can show a global menu.

robertoandred 5y ago

> The app does not die when you close the window. Thank goodness for that. The way Windows conflates apps and windows is just a mess.