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Im posting this comment on an iPhone SE (1st gen) I got in mid 2016. I still get OS updates, not just security patches. Whats that about Apple waste? Its peopl

Im posting this comment on an iPhone SE (1st gen) I got in mid 2016. I still get OS updates, not just security patches. Whats that about Apple waste? Its people that waste and drive waste. Id love it if I could load my own OS and do whatever on this little phone, but only if iOS itself was still locked up. I dont need to add even more worry about the safety of my “phone” (really portfolio of everything Ive done since Ive been online)

smichel17 5y ago
Many years ago, Apple removed all apps for the 1st gen iPod touch from the app store, with no warning. I found out about this when I did a factory reset (ironically, this was to un-jailbreak my iPod touch, since the jailbreak slowed it down a little and I wasn't using any of its features). Imagine my surprise and frustration when all the apps I was using moments before - Spotify, Fruit Ninja, Opera Mini (the only browser that was acceptably fast on that device) - were suddenly gone with no recourse.. except to upgrade. Which I did -- away from an ecosystem where a company has that kind of control over me.
- GeekyBear 5y ago
  >How to download old versions of apps from the App Store https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/02/08/how-to-download-old-versions-of-apps-from-the-app-store-on-an-older-iphone-or-ipad-that-cant-run-ios-11 https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/02/08/how-to-download-o...
  - smichel17 5y ago
    Not available in 2011.
    - GeekyBear 5y ago
      It was available starting in 2010. It was also possible to backup and restore apps individually through iTunes.
      - smichel17 5y ago
        Perhaps I have the date wrong, then? I do remember the individual app backup+restore, which I would have done if I'd known that I was going to need it. But I didn't have any data I cared about (just my music, which was already in iTunes), so I figured I'd just reinstall the apps. I remember re-jailbreaking my iPod afterwards and trying to find an old version of Spotify to install online, but being unable to find a trustworthy source.
fartcannon 5y ago
Try that with an iPhone 6. Apple's position on right to repair and planned obsolescence is well known: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate

smichel17 5y ago

Many years ago, Apple removed all apps for the 1st gen iPod touch from the app store, with no warning. I found out about this when I did a factory reset (ironically, this was to un-jailbreak my iPod touch, since the jailbreak slowed it down a little and I wasn't using any of its features). Imagine my surprise and frustration when all the apps I was using moments before - Spotify, Fruit Ninja, Opera Mini (the only browser that was acceptably fast on that device) - were suddenly gone with no recourse.. except to upgrade. Which I did -- away from an ecosystem where a company has that kind of control over me.

GeekyBear 5y ago
>How to download old versions of apps from the App Store https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/02/08/how-to-download-old-versions-of-apps-from-the-app-store-on-an-older-iphone-or-ipad-that-cant-run-ios-11 https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/02/08/how-to-download-o...
- smichel17 5y ago
  Not available in 2011.
  - GeekyBear 5y ago
    It was available starting in 2010. It was also possible to backup and restore apps individually through iTunes.
    - smichel17 5y ago
      Perhaps I have the date wrong, then? I do remember the individual app backup+restore, which I would have done if I'd known that I was going to need it. But I didn't have any data I cared about (just my music, which was already in iTunes), so I figured I'd just reinstall the apps. I remember re-jailbreaking my iPod afterwards and trying to find an old version of Spotify to install online, but being unable to find a trustworthy source.

fartcannon 5y ago

Try that with an iPhone 6. Apple's position on right to repair and planned obsolescence is well known: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batterygate