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Well two MiG-29 was actually "escorting" the plane to Minsk and there was KGB agents on board. I don't think crew had much to say. This was pure aircraft hijack

Well two MiG-29 was actually "escorting" the plane to Minsk and there was KGB agents on board. I don't think crew had much to say. This was pure aircraft hijacking backed up by country (or two).

app4soft 5y ago
> Well two MiG-29 was actually "escorting" the plane Info about MiG's escort NOT verified — there are no any photos/videos at this moment which shows MiG-29 side-by-side with Ryanair's plane.
- tW4r 5y ago
  There is an interview with the First Deputy Commander of the Air Force and Air Defense Forces of Belarus where he confirms that Mig-29 escorted the Boeing https://youtu.be/dsyfJ_HqjtQ https://youtu.be/dsyfJ_HqjtQ Additionally there is an alleged video of the Mig landing after escort with 6 air-to-air missiles visible https://youtu.be/AV8Im44ZtoI https://youtu.be/AV8Im44ZtoI
  - app4soft 5y ago
    Non of those sources shows MiG-29's side-by-side with Ryanair's plane in flight.
    - generj 5y ago
      How many cameras do you think exist capable of capturing a MIG-29 at 50k altitude in low population density areas? I doubt there are pictures of most military interceptions of passenger flights, which is no reason to doubt they happened.
      - tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
        Approximately 171, although only ~1/6th of them belonged to someone with a portside window seat. (Based on the passenger numbers, assuming 3+3 seating, and assuming everyone has, on average, one smartphone with a camera).
        VonGallifrey 5y ago
        The escorting aircraft would not need to fly side by side with the passenger aircraft. They could just fly behind, above or bellow the aircraft quite easily and not be seen by anyone on the aircraft. Not to mention that Air to Air missiles have a range in the tens of kilometers and the MIG-29 has sensors to observe the aircraft up to 100 km away. I don't think any of the passengers would have been aware in the slightest if the MIGs where flying 5 km behind the passenger aircraft.
        tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
        International intercept procedures are that one of the intercepting aircraft flies next to the intercepted aircraft. https://www.faa.gov/news/safety_briefing/2015/media/intercept-procedures.pdf https://www.faa.gov/news/safety_briefing/2015/media/intercep... Of course, they could also intercept from a bigger distance or threaten the plane with surface to air missiles and no jets at all. Intercepting from a bigger distance has the downside that the pilot cannot see the fighters except on electronic displays, all of which have zero security (just like the radio used to communicate with ATC). I wonder how long until someone "intercepts" an aircraft with an SDR and a directional antenna.
  - publicola1990 5y ago
    But any credible Western source has confirmed the same? For example any of the passengers or the pilots have vouched that the airliner was escorted by military aircraft?
    - app4soft 5y ago
      > Western source has confirmed the same? Source?
iso1631 5y ago
Sure, but once the plane had left Minsk and enterred friendly airspace there's no reason for Ryanair to not mention their missing passengers, other than risk finanicial reprisals (ryanair banned from overflying belarus)

Well two MiG-29 was actually "escorting" the plane to Minsk and there was KGB agents on board. I don't think crew had much to say. This was pure aircraft hijacking backed up by country (or two).

app4soft 5y ago

> Well two MiG-29 was actually "escorting" the plane Info about MiG's escort NOT verified — there are no any photos/videos at this moment which shows MiG-29 side-by-side with Ryanair's plane.

tW4r 5y ago
There is an interview with the First Deputy Commander of the Air Force and Air Defense Forces of Belarus where he confirms that Mig-29 escorted the Boeing https://youtu.be/dsyfJ_HqjtQ https://youtu.be/dsyfJ_HqjtQ Additionally there is an alleged video of the Mig landing after escort with 6 air-to-air missiles visible https://youtu.be/AV8Im44ZtoI https://youtu.be/AV8Im44ZtoI
- app4soft 5y ago
  Non of those sources shows MiG-29's side-by-side with Ryanair's plane in flight.
  - generj 5y ago
    How many cameras do you think exist capable of capturing a MIG-29 at 50k altitude in low population density areas? I doubt there are pictures of most military interceptions of passenger flights, which is no reason to doubt they happened.
    - tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
      Approximately 171, although only ~1/6th of them belonged to someone with a portside window seat. (Based on the passenger numbers, assuming 3+3 seating, and assuming everyone has, on average, one smartphone with a camera).
      - VonGallifrey 5y ago
        The escorting aircraft would not need to fly side by side with the passenger aircraft. They could just fly behind, above or bellow the aircraft quite easily and not be seen by anyone on the aircraft. Not to mention that Air to Air missiles have a range in the tens of kilometers and the MIG-29 has sensors to observe the aircraft up to 100 km away. I don't think any of the passengers would have been aware in the slightest if the MIGs where flying 5 km behind the passenger aircraft.
        tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
        International intercept procedures are that one of the intercepting aircraft flies next to the intercepted aircraft. https://www.faa.gov/news/safety_briefing/2015/media/intercept-procedures.pdf https://www.faa.gov/news/safety_briefing/2015/media/intercep... Of course, they could also intercept from a bigger distance or threaten the plane with surface to air missiles and no jets at all. Intercepting from a bigger distance has the downside that the pilot cannot see the fighters except on electronic displays, all of which have zero security (just like the radio used to communicate with ATC). I wonder how long until someone "intercepts" an aircraft with an SDR and a directional antenna.
- publicola1990 5y ago
  But any credible Western source has confirmed the same? For example any of the passengers or the pilots have vouched that the airliner was escorted by military aircraft?
  - app4soft 5y ago
    > Western source has confirmed the same? Source?

iso1631 5y ago

Sure, but once the plane had left Minsk and enterred friendly airspace there's no reason for Ryanair to not mention their missing passengers, other than risk finanicial reprisals (ryanair banned from overflying belarus)