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> they have already proved time and time again they are a dog which is all bark and no bite. People keep saying that as if that was a kind of universally ackno

by Iv 5y ago

> they have already proved time and time again they are a dog which is all bark and no bite. People keep saying that as if that was a kind of universally acknowledged wisdom. Here is a map of the 39 countries targeted by European sanctions (not counting the ones specifically targeting ISIS territories or various regions of Ukraine): https://sanctionsmap.eu/#/main https://sanctionsmap.eu/#/main There has been sanctions against Belarus for a while, suspended when they freed political prisoners, reinstated in light of the recent crackdown on elections. Here is the list of the 88 persons and 7 legal entities under EU sanctions (well technically, Council of Europe): https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32021R0339&from=EN https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL... Turkey doesn't have to "watch", they also received sanctions after the drilling standoff two years ago.

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ramblerman 5y ago
I'm an EU citizen we obviously have a different viewpoint on this but the link you sent to me shows precisely all bark in my opinion. Holding off on a few weapons exports here and there is meaningless. > People keep saying that If it's the general concensus there may be some reason for that. I'm sure Belarus wouldnt try this with a US plane. > Turkey doesn't have to "watch", they also received sanctions after the drilling standoff two years ago. If the reaction to hijacking an EU plane flying from one EU nation to another is indeed just some export/import sanctions, then yes I do think Turkey will find that interesting.
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- ikrenji 5y ago
  UK company -> UK plane
  - ramblerman 5y ago
    headquarters are in Dublin.
    - ciceryadam 5y ago
      and the plane is registered in Poland
- Iv 5y ago
  Well, read the link again: the sanctions include a list of names, whose assets are frozen, who can't travel in EU and companies that have the same fate. Economic sanctions are the most effective non-military actions states can take against each others. Short of military invasion what do you suggest EU does?

by Iv 5y ago

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ramblerman 5y ago

I'm an EU citizen we obviously have a different viewpoint on this but the link you sent to me shows precisely all bark in my opinion. Holding off on a few weapons exports here and there is meaningless. > People keep saying that If it's the general concensus there may be some reason for that. I'm sure Belarus wouldnt try this with a US plane. > Turkey doesn't have to "watch", they also received sanctions after the drilling standoff two years ago. If the reaction to hijacking an EU plane flying from one EU nation to another is indeed just some export/import sanctions, then yes I do think Turkey will find that interesting.

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ikrenji 5y ago
UK company -> UK plane
- ramblerman 5y ago
  headquarters are in Dublin.
  - ciceryadam 5y ago
    and the plane is registered in Poland
Iv 5y ago
Well, read the link again: the sanctions include a list of names, whose assets are frozen, who can't travel in EU and companies that have the same fate. Economic sanctions are the most effective non-military actions states can take against each others. Short of military invasion what do you suggest EU does?