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A major dealer in Liverpool is almost certainly someone who has his prints on file for previous crimes. They'll have suspected that account was him for a while

by weego 5y ago

A major dealer in Liverpool is almost certainly someone who has his prints on file for previous crimes. They'll have suspected that account was him for a while but didn't have reasonable grounds, this photo clearly convinced someone it gave them that. But sure, let's take talking points from another country and apply it here too to get angry because question mark

axiosgunnar 5y ago
Exactly, this „taking Us talking points and bruteforcing them onto other societies with a completely different legal system, history, and culture“ angers me a lot.
- jan_Inkepa 5y ago
  > completely different legal system, history, and culture America's legal system, while divergent nowadays, owes a lot to the UK's and they have a substantially common history, and American lawyers + judges still cite (pre-independence) English cases and thinkers from time to time - 'The [US Supreme] Court’s references to Blackstone [english lawyer/politician/judge] have increased tenfold since the 1930s, so that the Commentaries is now cited in 1 in 13 cases. At the same time, practically nobody reads it. Indeed, part of Blackstone’s persuasive power today comes from his text’s simultaneous familiarity and mystery. The Court capitalizes on Blackstone’s status as a kind of mythical ancestor – the “oracle of the law in the mind of the American framers,” citing Blackstone for the original meaning of the Constitution. ' e.g. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2402231 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2402231 [ But yeah, US-centric projection can be wearying. ]
StavrosK 5y ago
Do you see any visible fingerprints on the photo? I don't.
- bdowling 5y ago
  > Do you see any visible fingerprints on the photo? I don't. The photo accompanying the article has the fingers blurred out. In the original photo the fingers must have been clearly visible, because that’s how the police are claiming they identified the man.
  - StavrosK 5y ago
    It's motion blur, evident from the blurring of the letters. Unless the police added motion blur to the entire photo (why?), they would appear to be stretching the truth.
- spoonjim 5y ago
  The police may have downsampled before releasing and the website may have downsampled before posting to save bandwidth.
- IneffablePigeon 5y ago
  If you look at the full size image there's at the very least a large portion of palm print fairly visible. That's enough if you have a palm print, I assume.

by weego 5y ago

axiosgunnar 5y ago

Exactly, this „taking Us talking points and bruteforcing them onto other societies with a completely different legal system, history, and culture“ angers me a lot.

jan_Inkepa 5y ago
> completely different legal system, history, and culture America's legal system, while divergent nowadays, owes a lot to the UK's and they have a substantially common history, and American lawyers + judges still cite (pre-independence) English cases and thinkers from time to time - 'The [US Supreme] Court’s references to Blackstone [english lawyer/politician/judge] have increased tenfold since the 1930s, so that the Commentaries is now cited in 1 in 13 cases. At the same time, practically nobody reads it. Indeed, part of Blackstone’s persuasive power today comes from his text’s simultaneous familiarity and mystery. The Court capitalizes on Blackstone’s status as a kind of mythical ancestor – the “oracle of the law in the mind of the American framers,” citing Blackstone for the original meaning of the Constitution. ' e.g. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2402231 https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2402231 [ But yeah, US-centric projection can be wearying. ]

StavrosK 5y ago

Do you see any visible fingerprints on the photo? I don't.

bdowling 5y ago
> Do you see any visible fingerprints on the photo? I don't. The photo accompanying the article has the fingers blurred out. In the original photo the fingers must have been clearly visible, because that’s how the police are claiming they identified the man.
- StavrosK 5y ago
  It's motion blur, evident from the blurring of the letters. Unless the police added motion blur to the entire photo (why?), they would appear to be stretching the truth.
spoonjim 5y ago
The police may have downsampled before releasing and the website may have downsampled before posting to save bandwidth.
IneffablePigeon 5y ago
If you look at the full size image there's at the very least a large portion of palm print fairly visible. That's enough if you have a palm print, I assume.