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I'm not convinced Google really solved spam, they're just not afraid to turn the sensitivity on the filter way up even if that means a chunk of legitimate mail

by swiley 5y ago

I'm not convinced Google really solved spam, they're just not afraid to turn the sensitivity on the filter way up even if that means a chunk of legitimate mail gets marked as spam. Most smaller admins seem concerned about correctness and so they don't do this. I think this really sums up Google's M.O. in general.

taneq 5y ago
> Even if that means legitimate mail gets marked as spam I think that’s “especially as”. Other mail providers are competition, after all.
oblio 5y ago
I was there when they launched Gmail. I had an email account at almost every other big provider. Most of them were full of spam. Gmail was clean and the amount of legitimate emails misclassified was insignificant. Everyone else had to up their game due to Gmail. On all fronts.
- account42 5y ago
  Comparing a new gmail account to an older account that hat many more chances to end up on spam lists is not really fair though.
okprod 5y ago
even if that means a chunk of legitimate mail gets marked as spam Obviously a personal anecdote, but I signed up for Gmail close to when it first came out, and I don't think I've ever had a legitimate piece of mail marked as spam. I remember people clamoring to sign up for Gmail because it was the new thing, it had the counter that kept going up with "a lot" of storage space, etc. Folks were even paying others for a Gmail invite.
tester34 5y ago
Honestly, over years I think the amount of emails that were marked as spam but actually weren't (they were news letters that I didn't consider as spam but also were not important) was below 5, I think. meanwhile tons of spam (crypto related) is marked as spam, without that it'd be pain enter my mailbox
jjav 5y ago
> Most smaller admins seem concerned about correctness and so they don't do this. This, definitely. Take a look at gmail spam folder, it's always full of false positives.

by swiley 5y ago

taneq 5y ago

> Even if that means legitimate mail gets marked as spam I think that’s “especially as”. Other mail providers are competition, after all.

oblio 5y ago

I was there when they launched Gmail. I had an email account at almost every other big provider. Most of them were full of spam. Gmail was clean and the amount of legitimate emails misclassified was insignificant. Everyone else had to up their game due to Gmail. On all fronts.

account42 5y ago
Comparing a new gmail account to an older account that hat many more chances to end up on spam lists is not really fair though.

okprod 5y ago

even if that means a chunk of legitimate mail gets marked as spam Obviously a personal anecdote, but I signed up for Gmail close to when it first came out, and I don't think I've ever had a legitimate piece of mail marked as spam. I remember people clamoring to sign up for Gmail because it was the new thing, it had the counter that kept going up with "a lot" of storage space, etc. Folks were even paying others for a Gmail invite.

tester34 5y ago

Honestly, over years I think the amount of emails that were marked as spam but actually weren't (they were news letters that I didn't consider as spam but also were not important) was below 5, I think. meanwhile tons of spam (crypto related) is marked as spam, without that it'd be pain enter my mailbox

jjav 5y ago

> Most smaller admins seem concerned about correctness and so they don't do this. This, definitely. Take a look at gmail spam folder, it's always full of false positives.