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> "Touchscreens at the helm? Bad plan. I'm very happy with physical buttons" Ford still has plenty of physical buttons. They haven't gone the Tesla route of ma

> "Touchscreens at the helm? Bad plan. I'm very happy with physical buttons" Ford still has plenty of physical buttons. They haven't gone the Tesla route of making almost every function exclusively accessed by the touch screen. It looks to me like you can access most things you'd want to use while driving directly from the buttons on the steering wheel. > "Distractions in the cab should be eliminated, not increased." The ideal interface here is really good, interactive voice. Hands-free and eyes-free. Unfortunately, most in-car voice interfaces aren't quite their yet, including Tesla's.

Hamuko 5y ago
>The ideal interface here is really good, interactive voice. Hands-free and eyes-free. Let me guess: your native language is American English and you have no "weird" accent.
- Reason077 5y ago
  I have an accent that Americans would consider pretty weird. Siri has absolutely no problems with it. Google Voice isn't bad either. These things are pretty internationalised now days, and will only get better in the future.
  - Hamuko 5y ago
    Tell that to my Siri, who thinks I am constantly asking for "Obama lights".
    - rich_sasha 5y ago
      I’m sorry for your pain (I feel it too!) but I can’t figure out what Siri misheard as “Obama lights”..? Fwiw my car always thinks I’m trying to call someone or listen to obscure 60s pop, when all I want is to adjust the AC
      - Hamuko 5y ago
        "Obama lights" is the most common mishearing when I ask Siri to turn on the "apartment lights".
Dah00n 5y ago
>The ideal interface here is really good, interactive voice. Hands-free and eyes-free. No, voice control - including Siri - is more dangerous than driving at the legal (UK) drink limit and worse than texting in Siri's case. Several studies have found this. Tesla is amount the worst. It's a very common misconception that voice use is safe but it really isn't. It should be banned. We have much safer and well-tested systems in good old buttons.. https://www.caradvice.com.au/312763/automotive-voice-recognition-in-car-siri-use-can-be-dangerous-research-finds/ https://www.caradvice.com.au/312763/automotive-voice-recogni... https://www.iamroadsmart.com/campaign-pages/end-customer-campaigns/infotainment https://www.iamroadsmart.com/campaign-pages/end-customer-cam...
- Reason077 5y ago
  Voice control totally sucks in most cars right now, including Teslas. I'd imagine the reason why its dangerous is because people get frustrated with it and have to start poking around at controls/touch screens to correct whatever commands it misinterpreted. But I can't imagine any reason why, in the future, a good natural voice interface (Siri level or better) would require any more "mental effort" than having a conversation with someone in your passenger seat. (The studies you link are referring to the distractions of in-car entertainment systems in general, not specifically the voice interface. The problem is really that drivers are taking their eyes off the road for extended periods to operate the touch screen, which wouldn't be necessary if the voice interface was capable enough)
piva00 5y ago
> The ideal interface here is really good, interactive voice. It's only ideal when voice recognition is on the level of having a small conversation with the car, not brandishing commands like I never do in real life. It feels unnatural, and I suffer from the same issue as you and the other commenter in the thread: Siri, Google Voice, Alexa, etc., all have some issue with my accent and I don't even have a thick accent. It's absolutely infuriating to use voice assistants like that, missing 5% of the commands is worse than missing 50% because then I'm always on edge if the next command will be recognised or not. I've always tried voice assistance, since the first time I could use one around 2005, so far I have absolutely no desire or use for them as the technology keeps just getting in the way instead of helping me out. Not even to set alarms or timers it's good enough, the feedback loop is too long and I prefer to just do 2-3 taps on a screen instead.

Hamuko 5y ago

>The ideal interface here is really good, interactive voice. Hands-free and eyes-free. Let me guess: your native language is American English and you have no "weird" accent.

Reason077 5y ago
I have an accent that Americans would consider pretty weird. Siri has absolutely no problems with it. Google Voice isn't bad either. These things are pretty internationalised now days, and will only get better in the future.
- Hamuko 5y ago
  Tell that to my Siri, who thinks I am constantly asking for "Obama lights".
  - rich_sasha 5y ago
    I’m sorry for your pain (I feel it too!) but I can’t figure out what Siri misheard as “Obama lights”..? Fwiw my car always thinks I’m trying to call someone or listen to obscure 60s pop, when all I want is to adjust the AC
    - Hamuko 5y ago
      "Obama lights" is the most common mishearing when I ask Siri to turn on the "apartment lights".

Dah00n 5y ago

>The ideal interface here is really good, interactive voice. Hands-free and eyes-free. No, voice control - including Siri - is more dangerous than driving at the legal (UK) drink limit and worse than texting in Siri's case. Several studies have found this. Tesla is amount the worst. It's a very common misconception that voice use is safe but it really isn't. It should be banned. We have much safer and well-tested systems in good old buttons.. https://www.caradvice.com.au/312763/automotive-voice-recognition-in-car-siri-use-can-be-dangerous-research-finds/ https://www.caradvice.com.au/312763/automotive-voice-recogni... https://www.iamroadsmart.com/campaign-pages/end-customer-campaigns/infotainment https://www.iamroadsmart.com/campaign-pages/end-customer-cam...

Reason077 5y ago
Voice control totally sucks in most cars right now, including Teslas. I'd imagine the reason why its dangerous is because people get frustrated with it and have to start poking around at controls/touch screens to correct whatever commands it misinterpreted. But I can't imagine any reason why, in the future, a good natural voice interface (Siri level or better) would require any more "mental effort" than having a conversation with someone in your passenger seat. (The studies you link are referring to the distractions of in-car entertainment systems in general, not specifically the voice interface. The problem is really that drivers are taking their eyes off the road for extended periods to operate the touch screen, which wouldn't be necessary if the voice interface was capable enough)

piva00 5y ago

> The ideal interface here is really good, interactive voice. It's only ideal when voice recognition is on the level of having a small conversation with the car, not brandishing commands like I never do in real life. It feels unnatural, and I suffer from the same issue as you and the other commenter in the thread: Siri, Google Voice, Alexa, etc., all have some issue with my accent and I don't even have a thick accent. It's absolutely infuriating to use voice assistants like that, missing 5% of the commands is worse than missing 50% because then I'm always on edge if the next command will be recognised or not. I've always tried voice assistance, since the first time I could use one around 2005, so far I have absolutely no desire or use for them as the technology keeps just getting in the way instead of helping me out. Not even to set alarms or timers it's good enough, the feedback loop is too long and I prefer to just do 2-3 taps on a screen instead.