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Apple's marketing is quite genius. They spun iOS being a closed system into a plus. You can't install your own apps. Safari is not fit for PWAs. Repairability

Apple's marketing is quite genius. They spun iOS being a closed system into a plus. You can't install your own apps. Safari is not fit for PWAs. Repairability is not encouraged. All of this is for your own benefit and privacy. Want those things? Go to Android and sacrifice your privacy. With this approach, Apple comes out looking privacy-focused, justified for their App Store fees, and their stance on right to repair. I'm not educated enough to know if those restrictions are absolutely needed for privacy or privacy is a blanket excuse for how Apple operates.

dannyw 5y ago
It's more of an opportunity left by Google. If Google wasn't a spyware company masquerading as a search engine company, their team of brilliant engineers could create the most open, most reputable, most user friendly, and most privacy protecting system on the planet.
- dvfjsdhgfv 5y ago
  I still hope something like this happens one day. There is definitely a need for privacy-enabled Android that is compatible with major brands. I'd gladly pay €50 more for it. This system would have to be mostly API-compatible with Android so that developers could easily recompile their apps for it. There is a huge smoking hole waiting to be filled. Librem 5 (when it's released...) is simply not enough and frankly speaking simply too expensive for a popular privacy solution.
joemi 5y ago
There are positive and negative aspects to it being a closed system, just as there are positive and negative aspects of Android's open system. Marketing just chose to emphasize the positive aspects. Not really a genius play, IMO, that's just what any marketing team does.
- theturtletalks 5y ago
  Good point, but iOS was a closed system from the get-go and this was seen a drawback of iOS back then. The privacy focused marketing started 3-4 years ago.
okamiueru 5y ago
And at the same time, MacOS phones home every time you run anything, and logs exactly what you ran, on what you ran it, and where you ran it. Inb4: "This isn't a privacy issue, it's a security feature".
- procombo 5y ago
  It's a great read. Why not link to it? https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/ https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/
  - okamiueru 5y ago
    To be completely honest, I was about to, but got distracted. Thanks for linking it.
- bni 5y ago
  I think the distinction nowadays is what happens with the data after it has been collected. We are way past data being collected.
  - okamiueru 5y ago
    Running on linux, with software I can to a fairly large extent control, I beg to differ. This is also the default, and not some crazy power-user iptables/proxy filter shenaningans either.

dannyw 5y ago

It's more of an opportunity left by Google. If Google wasn't a spyware company masquerading as a search engine company, their team of brilliant engineers could create the most open, most reputable, most user friendly, and most privacy protecting system on the planet.

dvfjsdhgfv 5y ago
I still hope something like this happens one day. There is definitely a need for privacy-enabled Android that is compatible with major brands. I'd gladly pay €50 more for it. This system would have to be mostly API-compatible with Android so that developers could easily recompile their apps for it. There is a huge smoking hole waiting to be filled. Librem 5 (when it's released...) is simply not enough and frankly speaking simply too expensive for a popular privacy solution.

joemi 5y ago

There are positive and negative aspects to it being a closed system, just as there are positive and negative aspects of Android's open system. Marketing just chose to emphasize the positive aspects. Not really a genius play, IMO, that's just what any marketing team does.

theturtletalks 5y ago
Good point, but iOS was a closed system from the get-go and this was seen a drawback of iOS back then. The privacy focused marketing started 3-4 years ago.

okamiueru 5y ago

And at the same time, MacOS phones home every time you run anything, and logs exactly what you ran, on what you ran it, and where you ran it. Inb4: "This isn't a privacy issue, it's a security feature".

procombo 5y ago
It's a great read. Why not link to it? https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/ https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/
- okamiueru 5y ago
  To be completely honest, I was about to, but got distracted. Thanks for linking it.
bni 5y ago
I think the distinction nowadays is what happens with the data after it has been collected. We are way past data being collected.
- okamiueru 5y ago
  Running on linux, with software I can to a fairly large extent control, I beg to differ. This is also the default, and not some crazy power-user iptables/proxy filter shenaningans either.