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This is how it is supposed to work. 50 different states, with 50 different policies. The states with the successful policies are copied by those who had failed

by panny 5y ago

This is how it is supposed to work. 50 different states, with 50 different policies. The states with the successful policies are copied by those who had failed policies, such as putting covid patients in nursing homes for the elderly instead of an empty hospital ship provided by the federal government. The whole country can benefit. I only wonder why the states with failed polices are reluctant to follow a successful example.

AnimalMuppet 5y ago
> I only wonder why the states with failed polices are reluctant to follow a successful example. Because admitting that their policies failed is hard for politicians. So they bloviate about how the policy was actually successful, and try to make it hard to get apples-to-apples data, and otherwise try to hide the fact that they blew it.
- muttled 5y ago
  It's remarkable how much of politics comes down to "not it!"
spfzero 5y ago
I think only one state put COVID patients into nursing homes. A really bad idea, to be sure, and fortunately one that was not copied. Once you’ve made a decision as monumentality wrong, you’re not going to highlight the fact by correcting yourself too quickly.
- panny 5y ago
  It wasn't just New York. Michigan did that too. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2020/09/24/man-charged-punching-detroit-nursing-home-patient-found-competent/3521549001/ https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/20... As well as California, New Jersey, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/08/28/michigan-not-alone-allowing-nursing-homes-take-covid-19-patients/5647263002/ https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020...
jfengel 5y ago
50 states, 50 policies, 50*50 independent variables, zero controls. Even the overwhelming successes and the overwhelming failures give us little information because of all of the confounding factors. The only things we know are the really obvious: staying away from other people helps prevent disease spread, having big gatherings causes problems. If you needed to be taught that, you're not going to believe any of those 50 experiments. You'll always be able to single out something about them that contradicts it and continue to believe what you wanted to believe.

by panny 5y ago

AnimalMuppet 5y ago

> I only wonder why the states with failed polices are reluctant to follow a successful example. Because admitting that their policies failed is hard for politicians. So they bloviate about how the policy was actually successful, and try to make it hard to get apples-to-apples data, and otherwise try to hide the fact that they blew it.

muttled 5y ago
It's remarkable how much of politics comes down to "not it!"

spfzero 5y ago

I think only one state put COVID patients into nursing homes. A really bad idea, to be sure, and fortunately one that was not copied. Once you’ve made a decision as monumentality wrong, you’re not going to highlight the fact by correcting yourself too quickly.

panny 5y ago
It wasn't just New York. Michigan did that too. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2020/09/24/man-charged-punching-detroit-nursing-home-patient-found-competent/3521549001/ https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/20... As well as California, New Jersey, Minnesota, and Pennsylvania. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/08/28/michigan-not-alone-allowing-nursing-homes-take-covid-19-patients/5647263002/ https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020...

jfengel 5y ago

50 states, 50 policies, 50*50 independent variables, zero controls. Even the overwhelming successes and the overwhelming failures give us little information because of all of the confounding factors. The only things we know are the really obvious: staying away from other people helps prevent disease spread, having big gatherings causes problems. If you needed to be taught that, you're not going to believe any of those 50 experiments. You'll always be able to single out something about them that contradicts it and continue to believe what you wanted to believe.