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> Why do you want my first and last name? I ask for these on web forms simply because it's good to be able to reply to people by name, instead of starting your
by modernerd 15y ago
> Why do you want my first and last name?
I ask for these on web forms simply because it's good to be able to reply to people by name, instead of starting your response with "Hello" or, as is sadly quite common, no greeting at all.
> I can't keep a full communication log on my side.
That bugs me too. I use a "receive a copy of this email" checkbox on my forms for this reason.
- masklinn 15y ago> I ask for these on web forms simply because it's good to be able to reply to people by name, instead of starting your response with "Hello" or, as is sadly quite common, no greeting at all. Then 1. make it optional, not mandatory, I really don't care for being greeted in an answer to one of my inquiries and "hello" more than suffices (nothing is also perfectly acceptable). And 2. Don't make it a pair of First, Last field. If I'm Her Majesty Elizabeth the Second, by the Grace of God, of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and of Her other Realms and Territories, Queen, Head of the Commonwealth, Defender of the Faith you'd better greet me as exactly that. On a more serious notes, various cultures have different takes on names and greetings, not everybody has a first and a last name (or only a first and a last name). Just put "name" and I'll put what I want in that.
- modernerd 15y agoBoth excellent points. > "hello" more than suffices (nothing is also perfectly acceptable). To me -- as a receiver -- it feels impersonal to get a barked response without a greeting, especially if I'm writing to a company or in a professional context, and particularly if their answer seems canned. And, as a sender, it feels uncomfortable starting without a short personal greeting (at least for the first email you send). In the field of customer service, especially, you need to convey that you've acknowledged the sender's unique concerns. Even when they're far from unique. Some interesting reading here in "Are greetings and salutations redundant in an e-mail?": http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/18396/are-greetings-and-salutations-redundant-in-an-e-mail http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/18396/are-greetin... In case it ever crops up, addressing Her Majesty The Queen in written form as 'Madam' and closing with 'I have the honour to be, Madam, Your Majesty's humble and obedient servant' is just fine.
- bostonvaulter2 15y agoAdding my name isn't enough to make automated replies sound personal.
- masklinn 15y agoExactly. If it's an automated reply it's going to sound impersonal either way, and if it's not an automated reply... don't hire robots? When the person who mails you is actually involved/interested, even a greetings-less mail won't sound impersonal. When the person who mails you is not a person, you probably won't get to make it personal. And in the worst case, you may land it right in the uncanny valley.
- aerique 15y agoThe first and last name fields are required in the op. That's bad.
- nopassrecover 15y agoI'm surprised your webhost hasn't stopped you having a "receive a copy" tickbox - spammers use these to get your service to spam people (e.g. fill in a "Buy Viagra" spam message, put in the destination email, and presto using your good name to spam users).
- modernerd 15y agoGood point, but no issues so far. I use http://mollom.com/ http://mollom.com/ though, so that probably kills a lot of the automated stuff.