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I downloaded a torrent of TNG. It was easy to do, high enough quality, can't be revoked and you know, was actually available to me years ago. I'd happily have

by comice 15y ago

I downloaded a torrent of TNG. It was easy to do, high enough quality, can't be revoked and you know, was actually available to me years ago. I'd happily have paid some money for them if I could (though I admittedly wouldn't tolerate the terms of netflix myself). The dvds are £122 for the full set on Amazon - that's £0.69 per episode. Slightly pricey imo. I'd happily have paid £0.30 per episode though. Certainly not interested in paying £122 up front (I didn't know if I'd actually get through them all!) and I dislike having the actual physical dvds.

cageface 15y ago
What makes you feel entitled to set an arbitrary price and then violate the copyright if the publisher doesn't meet that price? Would you be equally sanguine about someone enjoying the fruits of your work at their arbitrary price?
- ugh 15y ago
  What makes him feel entitled is that he can do it without fearing retribution. It’s basically extortion. Gimme for $0.30 or I’m just not gonna pay anything and you try and catch me. I’m always a bit confused, though, about Americans being so willing to torrent. I thought the costs if you are caught are crippling in the US – basically life destroying? I don’t think I would want to risk that but maybe I’m just misinformed.
  - Jach 15y ago
    I assume most people feel that p(getting caught) is small enough to eliminate most of the negative utility that a conviction would carry in their expected utility calculations. What I'd like to see tested in court: we can record things on t.v. with a VCR for a private version, right? Could we record what Netflix displays, in this case TNG? Is this any different from torrenting a copy of the content, instead of recording, if you have a Netflix subscription?
- comice 15y ago
  I don't feel entitled at all. I'm just able to. I was just expressing how I feel about the situation. Even though it's trivially easy for me to get it for free, I'd be willing to pay for it - I personally find that interesting.
officemonkey 15y ago
>£0.69 That's 1.10 USD for 40+ minutes of solid entertainment. 3 minutes MP3 songs are typically 99 cents. Methinks you're being cheap.
- nkassis 15y ago
  But we are talking about a show that is now 20 years old. I do have to say that the quality of TNG and ST in general isn't matched by many shows today and it should command a premium. It's still the most expensive DVD show I'v seen.
- comice 15y ago
  Well, it would have cost me more than that if I'd bought it 5 years ago. Or 5 years before that. In 5 more years, it'll be even cheaper. In 5 more years after that, perhaps it'll come free with breakfast cereal. If copyright terms hadn't have been extended ridiculously it would have been in the public domain for several years already - but that's a different matter. My point is I wouldn't have thought twice about spending a little less than that per episode. Perhaps I am cheap.

by comice 15y ago

cageface 15y ago

What makes you feel entitled to set an arbitrary price and then violate the copyright if the publisher doesn't meet that price? Would you be equally sanguine about someone enjoying the fruits of your work at their arbitrary price?

ugh 15y ago
What makes him feel entitled is that he can do it without fearing retribution. It’s basically extortion. Gimme for $0.30 or I’m just not gonna pay anything and you try and catch me. I’m always a bit confused, though, about Americans being so willing to torrent. I thought the costs if you are caught are crippling in the US – basically life destroying? I don’t think I would want to risk that but maybe I’m just misinformed.
- Jach 15y ago
  I assume most people feel that p(getting caught) is small enough to eliminate most of the negative utility that a conviction would carry in their expected utility calculations. What I'd like to see tested in court: we can record things on t.v. with a VCR for a private version, right? Could we record what Netflix displays, in this case TNG? Is this any different from torrenting a copy of the content, instead of recording, if you have a Netflix subscription?
comice 15y ago
I don't feel entitled at all. I'm just able to. I was just expressing how I feel about the situation. Even though it's trivially easy for me to get it for free, I'd be willing to pay for it - I personally find that interesting.

officemonkey 15y ago

>£0.69 That's 1.10 USD for 40+ minutes of solid entertainment. 3 minutes MP3 songs are typically 99 cents. Methinks you're being cheap.

nkassis 15y ago
But we are talking about a show that is now 20 years old. I do have to say that the quality of TNG and ST in general isn't matched by many shows today and it should command a premium. It's still the most expensive DVD show I'v seen.
comice 15y ago
Well, it would have cost me more than that if I'd bought it 5 years ago. Or 5 years before that. In 5 more years, it'll be even cheaper. In 5 more years after that, perhaps it'll come free with breakfast cereal. If copyright terms hadn't have been extended ridiculously it would have been in the public domain for several years already - but that's a different matter. My point is I wouldn't have thought twice about spending a little less than that per episode. Perhaps I am cheap.