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Wasn’t the Bolivian plane the President’s which meant it was entitled to additional diplomatic protections and couldn’t be required to stop at all? Hence the va

Wasn’t the Bolivian plane the President’s which meant it was entitled to additional diplomatic protections and couldn’t be required to stop at all? Hence the various governments refusal to allow them into specific airspace so they’d run out of fuel and be forced to stop without being ordered to? It seems like the same goal and the same end result just that it required a little more finesse in their malicious compliance with international treaties.

throw0101a 5y ago
> Hence the various governments refusal to allow them into specific airspace so they’d run out of fuel and be forced to stop without being ordered to? > It would be illegal for the pilots to ignore such an order while inside a country's airspace. The pilots could report that they are having technical difficulties and are unable to override the current route programmed into the autopilot. They are also have issues disengaging the autopilot. So they are "forced" to continue their flight on their pre-filed flight plan. Any direction from ATC would be replied with "Unable": * https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2021/01/10-times-you-should-say-unable-to-atc/ https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2021/01/10-times-you-s... * https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/7915/who-has-the-higher-authority-the-pilot-in-command-or-atc https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/7915/who-has-th... * https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/24756/when-can-a-pilot-disobey-atc-commands https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/24756/when-can-... * https://atccommunication.com/cannot-comply-with-an-atc-clearance-unable/ https://atccommunication.com/cannot-comply-with-an-atc-clear... Short of shooting down the plane there's nothing anyone can do about it.
- elliekelly 5y ago
  Who are you quoting in the second paragraph? Because it looks like you’re quoting me and I don’t believe I said that...
  - Anthony-G 5y ago
    It looks like the throwaway was re-using their reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27257113 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27257113

throw0101a 5y ago

> Hence the various governments refusal to allow them into specific airspace so they’d run out of fuel and be forced to stop without being ordered to? > It would be illegal for the pilots to ignore such an order while inside a country's airspace. The pilots could report that they are having technical difficulties and are unable to override the current route programmed into the autopilot. They are also have issues disengaging the autopilot. So they are "forced" to continue their flight on their pre-filed flight plan. Any direction from ATC would be replied with "Unable": * https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2021/01/10-times-you-should-say-unable-to-atc/ https://www.boldmethod.com/blog/lists/2021/01/10-times-you-s... * https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/7915/who-has-the-higher-authority-the-pilot-in-command-or-atc https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/7915/who-has-th... * https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/24756/when-can-a-pilot-disobey-atc-commands https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/24756/when-can-... * https://atccommunication.com/cannot-comply-with-an-atc-clearance-unable/ https://atccommunication.com/cannot-comply-with-an-atc-clear... Short of shooting down the plane there's nothing anyone can do about it.

elliekelly 5y ago
Who are you quoting in the second paragraph? Because it looks like you’re quoting me and I don’t believe I said that...
- Anthony-G 5y ago
  It looks like the throwaway was re-using their reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27257113 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27257113