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For the latter questions, WebGL is rendered as an opaque bitmap in the browser (canvas element) so it amounts to an unselectable image as far as the user is con

For the latter questions, WebGL is rendered as an opaque bitmap in the browser (canvas element) so it amounts to an unselectable image as far as the user is concerned: It's all pixels and no text.

codetrotter 5y ago
It’d be a fair bit of work, but from a technical point of view you could implement a click and a drag event handler that “selects” the text, and intercept Ctrl+C etc and place the text on the browser clipboard. Ultimately it would probably feel quite unnatural compared to the native text selection of the browser. And probably would not work very well except in a small subset of browsers. I think at some point in the future browsers and/or operating systems will ship with machine learning powered systems for recognizing text in bitmaps and for letting users copy recognized text. This is already possible today both with third party non-ML powered OCR software and with third party ML-powered software.
- ithkuil 5y ago
  The new Google docs uses a canvas. The feature is not rolled out fully yet but there is a demo document attached to the announcement. The canvas demo document is fully selectable, it feels native. I assume it works as you described, so it's possible to make it feel right, with enough effort to detail.
  - contriban 5y ago
    By placing the right elements at the right place, you can have native input and text selection, but that’s not just WebGL anymore; That’s a regular (but transparent) webpage with a WebGL background that mimics your input. It takes quite a bit of effort to emulate that effectively since there’s no guarantee that the visible text rendered by WebGL renders with what the browser renders outside it. Probably the 80/20 rule applies here.
    - ithkuil 5y ago
      I inspected the DOM while selecting and I didn't find the hidden text element. Perhaps it was there and I didn't know how to find it. Is this a more likely approach than just drawing the selection highlight and emulating the whole thing in canvas?

For the latter questions, WebGL is rendered as an opaque bitmap in the browser (canvas element) so it amounts to an unselectable image as far as the user is concerned: It's all pixels and no text.

codetrotter 5y ago

It’d be a fair bit of work, but from a technical point of view you could implement a click and a drag event handler that “selects” the text, and intercept Ctrl+C etc and place the text on the browser clipboard. Ultimately it would probably feel quite unnatural compared to the native text selection of the browser. And probably would not work very well except in a small subset of browsers. I think at some point in the future browsers and/or operating systems will ship with machine learning powered systems for recognizing text in bitmaps and for letting users copy recognized text. This is already possible today both with third party non-ML powered OCR software and with third party ML-powered software.

ithkuil 5y ago
The new Google docs uses a canvas. The feature is not rolled out fully yet but there is a demo document attached to the announcement. The canvas demo document is fully selectable, it feels native. I assume it works as you described, so it's possible to make it feel right, with enough effort to detail.
- contriban 5y ago
  By placing the right elements at the right place, you can have native input and text selection, but that’s not just WebGL anymore; That’s a regular (but transparent) webpage with a WebGL background that mimics your input. It takes quite a bit of effort to emulate that effectively since there’s no guarantee that the visible text rendered by WebGL renders with what the browser renders outside it. Probably the 80/20 rule applies here.
  - ithkuil 5y ago
    I inspected the DOM while selecting and I didn't find the hidden text element. Perhaps it was there and I didn't know how to find it. Is this a more likely approach than just drawing the selection highlight and emulating the whole thing in canvas?