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That's what the UL or CE mark is for

by ilkan 5y ago

the-dude 5y ago
Are you aware that at least CE is 'self certification' ? Only when a case goes to court, it will be determined if the certification was rightful or not.
wl 5y ago
Too bad so many of those marks are fake on Amazon.
cik 5y ago
Unfortunately I can't comment below this point, in the thread I started. You're making the point I'm making. While I don't (to the best of my knowledge) purchase counterfeit items, I don't pretend that certification is anything other than certification. Hopefully certification comes with standards, and aren't self-reporting... but that's not always the case.
jaclaz 5y ago
JFYI, there is CE and C E. https://support.ce-check.eu/hc/en-us/articles/360008642600-How-To-Distinguish-A-Real-CE-Mark-From-A-Fake-Chinese-Export-Mark https://support.ce-check.eu/hc/en-us/articles/360008642600-H...
- zuminator 5y ago
  jaclaz, that's interesting, but Wikipedia alleges it to be somewhat of an urban legend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking#%22China_Export%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking#%22China_Export%22
  - LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
    Disagree, because I've got a hand full of these from different brands in operation right now. One even from the major CPE-equipment manufacturer in Germany. I know because they looked 'fishy' to me when they arrived, and I researched into that. I opend some of them non-destructively to check them out, and deemed them sufficient. They barely get warm at all. Nonetheless I put them in some closed rack where they only could produce some stink, but no fire. I'm too lazy to unplug them right now to upload photos to Imgur, or such, because it would disrupt some services. Anyways, no urban legend. Just the usual bureaucratic disconnect from reality, saying otherwise. Meanwhile another bureaucratic entity, the german customs really likes to hassle you because of exactly that sh..! :-) edit: Some of them in continous operation for just over a decade, some others about 5 to 6 years, YMMV. (shrug)
- OJFord 5y ago
  That's just a joke that arises from self-certifying 'CE', like 'QC passed' it's just a label that doesn't mean anything but makes some consumers feel good, just because you get used to seeing it and it looks like it must be good even if (or only if) you dont actually know what it means.
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That's what the UL or CE mark is for

by ilkan 5y ago

That's what the UL or CE mark is for

Are you aware that at least CE is 'self certification' ? Only when a case goes to court, it will be determined if the certification was rightful or not.

wl 5y ago

Too bad so many of those marks are fake on Amazon.

cik 5y ago

Unfortunately I can't comment below this point, in the thread I started. You're making the point I'm making. While I don't (to the best of my knowledge) purchase counterfeit items, I don't pretend that certification is anything other than certification. Hopefully certification comes with standards, and aren't self-reporting... but that's not always the case.

jaclaz 5y ago

JFYI, there is CE and C E. https://support.ce-check.eu/hc/en-us/articles/360008642600-How-To-Distinguish-A-Real-CE-Mark-From-A-Fake-Chinese-Export-Mark https://support.ce-check.eu/hc/en-us/articles/360008642600-H...

zuminator 5y ago
jaclaz, that's interesting, but Wikipedia alleges it to be somewhat of an urban legend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking#%22China_Export%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CE_marking#%22China_Export%22
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
  Disagree, because I've got a hand full of these from different brands in operation right now. One even from the major CPE-equipment manufacturer in Germany. I know because they looked 'fishy' to me when they arrived, and I researched into that. I opend some of them non-destructively to check them out, and deemed them sufficient. They barely get warm at all. Nonetheless I put them in some closed rack where they only could produce some stink, but no fire. I'm too lazy to unplug them right now to upload photos to Imgur, or such, because it would disrupt some services. Anyways, no urban legend. Just the usual bureaucratic disconnect from reality, saying otherwise. Meanwhile another bureaucratic entity, the german customs really likes to hassle you because of exactly that sh..! :-) edit: Some of them in continous operation for just over a decade, some others about 5 to 6 years, YMMV. (shrug)
OJFord 5y ago
That's just a joke that arises from self-certifying 'CE', like 'QC passed' it's just a label that doesn't mean anything but makes some consumers feel good, just because you get used to seeing it and it looks like it must be good even if (or only if) you dont actually know what it means.

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