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As far as school punishments go this one seems a relatively benign and actually almost reasonable? You chose not to do the homework, so the teacher assigned you

by Zircom 5y ago

As far as school punishments go this one seems a relatively benign and actually almost reasonable? You chose not to do the homework, so the teacher assigned you a mandatory time during which you could complete the homework without being distracted during lunch. From the details you provided,my understanding is you could've just completed it during lunch detention and that would've been the end of it, that seems pretty fair to me. You were aware of the consequences of not doing your homework and chose to continuously not do your assignments either at home or during the lunch period.

LegitShady 5y ago
Because teachers have rotating lunch duties because it's often against their contract to make them work more than x lunches per week/month, while the child can be arbitrarily put in punishment for more than that. Just because he was aware of the punishment doesn't make the punishment appropriate. At some point the issue should be escalated or a compromise reached. Allowing to it go on for the majority of the school year is the teacher being unable to control the situation so taking it out on the student to the students detriment instead of benefit.
justinclift 5y ago
> You chose not to do the homework ... Bull. Schools only have authority over you while you're on their grounds. Once school time is over, they can want whatever they like. Just like anybody. They have no authority to actually do anything about it though, nor should they. Homework is just them trying to waste people's time.
- gorgonzolachz 5y ago
  While I agree with the broader point, this is grade A BS and I think you know it. Anyone who's ever spent time in a classroom viewing the experience with an objective eye knows that teachers can't be reasonably expected to teach everything they need to within the constraints given to them. As a result, they assign homework (reading, projects, busywork) over the course of the semester to ensure that the knowledge they're asked to pass on actually sinks in to the minds of the students. Good teachers make good homework. Bad teachers make bad homework, but not necessarily because they're trying to waste their students' time.
  - justinclift 5y ago
    Again, that's bull. There is no need for homework. Maybe in exceptional circumstances to achieve a specific once-off outcome, but not in _any_ way as a routine thing. Please, stop encouraging people to waste kids time. :(
  - michaelmrose 5y ago
    Most homework during K-12 was time wasting busywork I doubt it was much different for anyone else. I think the broader point was that only a child has a grudge match with a child. The penalty for not doing homework is a zero on that portion of the class. Let them hurt their own grade if they insist. The math teacher was a childish incompetent unfit for his position.
Bancakes 5y ago
The problem is he got detention for not doing an assignment which he could do at home. I don't understand how American schools can detain children like that.

by Zircom 5y ago

LegitShady 5y ago

Because teachers have rotating lunch duties because it's often against their contract to make them work more than x lunches per week/month, while the child can be arbitrarily put in punishment for more than that. Just because he was aware of the punishment doesn't make the punishment appropriate. At some point the issue should be escalated or a compromise reached. Allowing to it go on for the majority of the school year is the teacher being unable to control the situation so taking it out on the student to the students detriment instead of benefit.

justinclift 5y ago

> You chose not to do the homework ... Bull. Schools only have authority over you while you're on their grounds. Once school time is over, they can want whatever they like. Just like anybody. They have no authority to actually do anything about it though, nor should they. Homework is just them trying to waste people's time.

gorgonzolachz 5y ago
While I agree with the broader point, this is grade A BS and I think you know it. Anyone who's ever spent time in a classroom viewing the experience with an objective eye knows that teachers can't be reasonably expected to teach everything they need to within the constraints given to them. As a result, they assign homework (reading, projects, busywork) over the course of the semester to ensure that the knowledge they're asked to pass on actually sinks in to the minds of the students. Good teachers make good homework. Bad teachers make bad homework, but not necessarily because they're trying to waste their students' time.
- justinclift 5y ago
  Again, that's bull. There is no need for homework. Maybe in exceptional circumstances to achieve a specific once-off outcome, but not in _any_ way as a routine thing. Please, stop encouraging people to waste kids time. :(
- michaelmrose 5y ago
  Most homework during K-12 was time wasting busywork I doubt it was much different for anyone else. I think the broader point was that only a child has a grudge match with a child. The penalty for not doing homework is a zero on that portion of the class. Let them hurt their own grade if they insist. The math teacher was a childish incompetent unfit for his position.

Bancakes 5y ago

The problem is he got detention for not doing an assignment which he could do at home. I don't understand how American schools can detain children like that.