I'm about three years into using elixir professionally and I still kind of hate phoenix. There's a lot more to love in elixir than phoenix, and to be honest, e

I'm about three years into using elixir professionally and I still kind of hate phoenix. There's a lot more to love in elixir than phoenix, and to be honest, especially if you're getting paid to work on a phoenix codebase, you can kind of grin and bear it, ask for help on slack/elixirforums, and it's mostly fine. There are truly only a handful of things where "you kind of have to know the magic incantations", and it's very easy to find someone who knows them. Often it's a generator. Typically you only need to be shown once per project at most (and everything else is a normal copy/paste away). And the debug lines making no sense is relatively rare. In the best sense of "being a framework", once you're past these problems, you're into pure elixir and all is good again. Jose has stated that fixing internalized pain is a real priority for the elixir ecosystem moving forward, so it's entirely possible that these things will be fixed over time (or it's possible it won't!).