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Except, Zig is not "a one man passion project". Zig is newer than Rust, but the Zig Software Foundation was in fact founded before the Rust Foundation, and alr
by jorangreef 5y ago
Except, Zig is not "a one man passion project".
Zig is newer than Rust, but the Zig Software Foundation was in fact founded before the Rust Foundation, and already employs several core members. For example, Jakub Konka who resigned from Microsoft to work for the ZSF (https://ziglang.org/news/jakub-konka-hired-full-time/ https://ziglang.org/news/jakub-konka-hired-full-time/), and whose linker was the first to enable cross-compilation to Apple Silicon, and is already making Rust's cross-compilation just work (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27245369 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27245369).
Inspiring how such a young language can already be so far ahead when it comes to something as vital as the compile chain.
- steveklabnik 5y ago> Funny how the "toy" is ahead of the "industrial scale tool" when it comes to something as basic as the compile chain. It's not funny if you understand the relative priorities of the two teams. Rust tends to prioritize working with the system, so all of our default configurations use the system linker. Zig doesn't have the same constraints. This feature is awesome, and I would love to see it in Rust as well, but like, it's not surprising.
- jorangreef 5y ago"just trying to score internet points" No, Zig absolutely has an awesome compiler. It's not "a toy" or a "one man passion project" and it's condescending to reduce it to those terms, as if it is not also somehow "industrial scale".
- steveklabnik 5y agoI absolutely agree that it is awesome. That doesn't mean that returning condescension with more of it is helping the conversation, or getting said awesome compiler the respect it deserves.
- jorangreef 5y agoThanks Steve, how would you rather that I reword the comparison in that last sentence? Let me know and I'll make the edit. To be fair, your comment would also be better served without the insinuation of "just trying to score internet points".
- steveklabnik 5y agoI try to stick to just the facts, but I'm not perfect at it either. That's fair! I'll cut that too. Sorry about that!
- jorangreef 5y agoMe too. That's one thing I've learned from HN. I've made the edit. Thanks for the tip. I've enjoyed and learned from this exchange with you.