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What is the biggest project written in Rust? Servo? Hasn't Firefox gave up on it?

by xaduha 5y ago

Buttons840 5y ago
Firefox did ship some Rust code, and I haven't heard anything about Firefox giving up on Rust. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Oxidation https://wiki.mozilla.org/Oxidation
- stu2b50 5y ago
  They haven't officially, but the last layoffs gutted the teams working on rust to such an extent that it seems it's no longer a prioritization, at least if they remain for the same amount of funding.
  - Buttons840 5y ago
    What do you mean "they haven't officially"? The link I posted states "the first major Rust components were shipped in Firefox 56", is this not official?. Do you believe that is wrong? (I'm just trying to reconcile what I'm reading in these comments with what is stated in the link I posted.)
  - iudqnolq 5y ago
    Did the gut lang usage or just lang dev?
    - steveklabnik 5y ago
      They no longer employ the language developers, and the Servo developers, but they still write Rust code.
- Yoric 5y ago
  Bug chunks of Firefox are still being rewritten in Rust. Parts of Google Fuchsia are apparently developed in Rust, too.
- xaduha 5y ago
  I meant gave up on Servo, not Rust per se. And since we're exchanging wiki links https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(software) > After Mozilla laid off all Servo developers in 2020, governance of the project was transferred to the Linux Foundation. Development work officially continues at the same GitHub repository, but only volunteers remain, so there has merely been maintenance activity.
  - est31 5y ago
    It's so sad that Mozilla blamed covid for this, as never before people have been spending so much time at home and in front of their computers, causing record earnings for digital companies. Including Google, which finances Firefox. Daily usage time of Firefox has actually went up around April 2020, by around 24 minutes and has been at that level since. https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity Also the employees found really good employment at other companies so there seems to be high demand for Rust developers, at least in the USA, and at least for this segment of the market.
    - kaba0 5y ago
      Writing one browser engine is an insurmountable task in itself, let alone two. It is sad that servo didn’t happen, but it was the correct decision.
agumonkey 5y ago
somehow rust going off from mozilla into a kernel is such a fail-to-win :D
steveklabnik 5y ago
Firefox is about 9% Rust https://4e6.github.io/firefox-lang-stats/ https://4e6.github.io/firefox-lang-stats/

What is the biggest project written in Rust? Servo? Hasn't Firefox gave up on it?

by xaduha 5y ago

What is the biggest project written in Rust? Servo? Hasn't Firefox gave up on it?

Firefox did ship some Rust code, and I haven't heard anything about Firefox giving up on Rust. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Oxidation https://wiki.mozilla.org/Oxidation

stu2b50 5y ago
They haven't officially, but the last layoffs gutted the teams working on rust to such an extent that it seems it's no longer a prioritization, at least if they remain for the same amount of funding.
- Buttons840 5y ago
  What do you mean "they haven't officially"? The link I posted states "the first major Rust components were shipped in Firefox 56", is this not official?. Do you believe that is wrong? (I'm just trying to reconcile what I'm reading in these comments with what is stated in the link I posted.)
- iudqnolq 5y ago
  Did the gut lang usage or just lang dev?
  - steveklabnik 5y ago
    They no longer employ the language developers, and the Servo developers, but they still write Rust code.
Yoric 5y ago
Bug chunks of Firefox are still being rewritten in Rust. Parts of Google Fuchsia are apparently developed in Rust, too.
xaduha 5y ago
I meant gave up on Servo, not Rust per se. And since we're exchanging wiki links https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(software) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servo_(software) > After Mozilla laid off all Servo developers in 2020, governance of the project was transferred to the Linux Foundation. Development work officially continues at the same GitHub repository, but only volunteers remain, so there has merely been maintenance activity.
- est31 5y ago
  It's so sad that Mozilla blamed covid for this, as never before people have been spending so much time at home and in front of their computers, causing record earnings for digital companies. Including Google, which finances Firefox. Daily usage time of Firefox has actually went up around April 2020, by around 24 minutes and has been at that level since. https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity Also the employees found really good employment at other companies so there seems to be high demand for Rust developers, at least in the USA, and at least for this segment of the market.
  - kaba0 5y ago
    Writing one browser engine is an insurmountable task in itself, let alone two. It is sad that servo didn’t happen, but it was the correct decision.

agumonkey 5y ago

somehow rust going off from mozilla into a kernel is such a fail-to-win :D

steveklabnik 5y ago

Firefox is about 9% Rust https://4e6.github.io/firefox-lang-stats/ https://4e6.github.io/firefox-lang-stats/