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>Right. And what does any of that have to do with work? For you? Nothing. For your LGBTQIA+ coworkers? It means having to figure out how many times a day to bi
by gryfft 5y ago
>Right. And what does any of that have to do with work?
For you? Nothing. For your LGBTQIA+ coworkers? It means having to figure out how many times a day to bite your tongue when somebody "apolitically" makes an "innocent" attack helicopter joke that "isn't targeting" them. Ignoring those people and their feelings is political. I have personally called out coworkers who were making shitty "jokes" in front of clearly-uncomfortable non-straight coworkers. This is a real thing that happens every day even if you successfully ignore it.
>No, I mean the people who identify as a letter and scald you if you don't know what their letter means
I was assisting you should you desire not to be "scalded" by not understanding what eight letters mean. Your combative stance about those marginalized people belies your claim to be "firmly left of center."
- trts 5y agoAt my past three workplaces spanning more than a decade, such an utterance would get you fired immediately. In fact, I knew of it happening, even though I didn't know the involved parties, because it was such shameful behavior that it was widely talked about. Almost everything is a real thing that happens every day, but the extent of it and where it occurs is not always easy to know. Do I see people every day have to suffer the indignity of other people's tasteless or outright hostile jokes? No, it is quite rare. Do I see people treated differently because they are young/old, not meeting an arbitrary standard of beauty, because they are not an extrovert who feels confident in expressing their opinion or uncertainty, because they lost a loved one or are pregnant or have a medical condition that competes with their ability to work 60 hours a week? Nearly every week I see this. But there's no Slack emojis for these things. I would rather see a broad standard of tolerance and dignity applied in the workplace but in the U.S. at least what we get are empty gestures towards certain groups and those groups go in and out of fashion with the media cycle.
- j_wtf_all_taken 5y ago> they are not an extrovert who feels confident in expressing their opinion As far as I understand it, that's called being shy, not being an introvert. So what were the previous groups that were in fashion with the media cycle? And now that they're out of fashion, did they loose all they accomplished?
- Aloha 5y agoAs a neurodiverse queer person, as far as I can tell, those jokes have little do to with LGBTQ issues - and as far as I'm concerned, its people being a dick and not being rightly called out for it - friends don't let friends be assholes - coworkers don't let coworkers be assholes, you don't need 8 letter acronyms to do that. It's people playing the "I'm not touching you game" then getting surprised when they get bit in the ass for their constant assholery. I'm in the middle of this issue, On one side (right), I have a camp of raging assholes who wants to push the line as to what's acceptable, they know they're playing the performative asshole game - its just edgy internet bullshit. On the other (left), I have another side who keeps moving the line on what isn't acceptable and has now demonized innocent mistakes (intent no longer matters, just the feeling of 'harm' among the aggrieved), and stuff that probably isn't offensive, and now often white knights for people they do not know, who are not there, and may not actually be offended themselves. Neither of these extremes make finding any sort of reasonable standard of decorum terribly easy for what its worth, as both sides tend to be fundamentally unreasonable and absolutist in their interpretation and application. Both have figured out they can demand some sort of kabuki theatre 'accountability' when they feel their 'rules' have been transgressed - and its a big pile of BS in the end - and helps no one, and ends up adding a big pile of stress to everyone but the people who are yelling loudly.
- globular-toast 5y agoAs a geek and slightly autistic person, I find the show "The Big Bang Theory" mildly offensive and alienating. It has been compared, quite rightly so, I think, to a black minstrel show. I will tell anyone who wants to know why I, and many others, feel this way about the show, but if someone makes a joke about it at work or, worse, compares me to the Sheldon character, I just smile and get on with it. They don't mean any harm. I'm not about to start some tirade where we ban mentions of the show at work. That's just not how society works.