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"The letter people" You mean LGBT+? Because dang that's an incredibly insulting way to completely dismiss everyone who isn't straight then

globular-toast 5y ago
No, I mean the people who identify as a letter and scald you if you don't know what their letter means. I have no idea what half of those letters mean or whether it means gay or straight (the T could definitely be straight, I know that much). I've also known plenty of gay people over the years who haven't ever mentioned these letters so it's nothing to do with that.
- gryfft 5y ago
  I have scoured the farthest, deepest reaches of the Leftist Web to retrieve the lost scrolls containing the arcane encoding of this horrifying acronym: L: Lesbian (This means women who like women.) G: Gay (This means men who like men.) B: Bisexual. This means women and men who like both women and men. T: Trans. This means you do not identify with the gender you were assigned at birth. Q: Queer. This means you do not identify as straight but don't feel like you necessarily fit into just one of the other buckets all of the time. Maybe you don't feel particularly like a man or a woman, or you don't feel like masculinity or femininity really even come into play in your sexuality. I: Intersex. Some people are born with sex organs that don't look like the venerable "man/woman" anatomy charts. As it turns out they are still living breathing people. A: Asexual. Some people do not feel sexual attraction toward other human beings. As it turns out they are still living breathing people. +: Sometimes people feel like they fall somewhere on a spectrum of the above. Sometimes people using the acronym intend to include allies. Sometimes people just haven't figured out their sexuality yet exactly, they just know 'one man and one woman' isn't it. LGBTQIA+. It's not alphabet soup, it's not a joke, appending BBQ isn't clever. It's just lesbians, gay men, bi people, trans people, queer people, intersex people, asexual people, and allies or people who are still having trouble categorizing themselves and how they feel. Now you know all the letters. It didn't even use up the whole alphabet.
  - globular-toast 5y ago
    Right. And what does any of that have to do with work? I don't care what sex you like, what genitals you have or what you were born with. Keep it to yourself, please. For the record, my politics are firmly left of centre so I don't appreciate getting the "right wing" rubber stamp that is so often dished out to silence people you don't like.
    - gryfft 5y ago
      >Right. And what does any of that have to do with work? For you? Nothing. For your LGBTQIA+ coworkers? It means having to figure out how many times a day to bite your tongue when somebody "apolitically" makes an "innocent" attack helicopter joke that "isn't targeting" them. Ignoring those people and their feelings is political. I have personally called out coworkers who were making shitty "jokes" in front of clearly-uncomfortable non-straight coworkers. This is a real thing that happens every day even if you successfully ignore it. >No, I mean the people who identify as a letter and scald you if you don't know what their letter means I was assisting you should you desire not to be "scalded" by not understanding what eight letters mean. Your combative stance about those marginalized people belies your claim to be "firmly left of center."
      - trts 5y ago
        At my past three workplaces spanning more than a decade, such an utterance would get you fired immediately. In fact, I knew of it happening, even though I didn't know the involved parties, because it was such shameful behavior that it was widely talked about. Almost everything is a real thing that happens every day, but the extent of it and where it occurs is not always easy to know. Do I see people every day have to suffer the indignity of other people's tasteless or outright hostile jokes? No, it is quite rare. Do I see people treated differently because they are young/old, not meeting an arbitrary standard of beauty, because they are not an extrovert who feels confident in expressing their opinion or uncertainty, because they lost a loved one or are pregnant or have a medical condition that competes with their ability to work 60 hours a week? Nearly every week I see this. But there's no Slack emojis for these things. I would rather see a broad standard of tolerance and dignity applied in the workplace but in the U.S. at least what we get are empty gestures towards certain groups and those groups go in and out of fashion with the media cycle.

globular-toast 5y ago

No, I mean the people who identify as a letter and scald you if you don't know what their letter means. I have no idea what half of those letters mean or whether it means gay or straight (the T could definitely be straight, I know that much). I've also known plenty of gay people over the years who haven't ever mentioned these letters so it's nothing to do with that.

gryfft 5y ago
I have scoured the farthest, deepest reaches of the Leftist Web to retrieve the lost scrolls containing the arcane encoding of this horrifying acronym: L: Lesbian (This means women who like women.) G: Gay (This means men who like men.) B: Bisexual. This means women and men who like both women and men. T: Trans. This means you do not identify with the gender you were assigned at birth. Q: Queer. This means you do not identify as straight but don't feel like you necessarily fit into just one of the other buckets all of the time. Maybe you don't feel particularly like a man or a woman, or you don't feel like masculinity or femininity really even come into play in your sexuality. I: Intersex. Some people are born with sex organs that don't look like the venerable "man/woman" anatomy charts. As it turns out they are still living breathing people. A: Asexual. Some people do not feel sexual attraction toward other human beings. As it turns out they are still living breathing people. +: Sometimes people feel like they fall somewhere on a spectrum of the above. Sometimes people using the acronym intend to include allies. Sometimes people just haven't figured out their sexuality yet exactly, they just know 'one man and one woman' isn't it. LGBTQIA+. It's not alphabet soup, it's not a joke, appending BBQ isn't clever. It's just lesbians, gay men, bi people, trans people, queer people, intersex people, asexual people, and allies or people who are still having trouble categorizing themselves and how they feel. Now you know all the letters. It didn't even use up the whole alphabet.
- globular-toast 5y ago
  Right. And what does any of that have to do with work? I don't care what sex you like, what genitals you have or what you were born with. Keep it to yourself, please. For the record, my politics are firmly left of centre so I don't appreciate getting the "right wing" rubber stamp that is so often dished out to silence people you don't like.
  - gryfft 5y ago
    >Right. And what does any of that have to do with work? For you? Nothing. For your LGBTQIA+ coworkers? It means having to figure out how many times a day to bite your tongue when somebody "apolitically" makes an "innocent" attack helicopter joke that "isn't targeting" them. Ignoring those people and their feelings is political. I have personally called out coworkers who were making shitty "jokes" in front of clearly-uncomfortable non-straight coworkers. This is a real thing that happens every day even if you successfully ignore it. >No, I mean the people who identify as a letter and scald you if you don't know what their letter means I was assisting you should you desire not to be "scalded" by not understanding what eight letters mean. Your combative stance about those marginalized people belies your claim to be "firmly left of center."
    - trts 5y ago
      At my past three workplaces spanning more than a decade, such an utterance would get you fired immediately. In fact, I knew of it happening, even though I didn't know the involved parties, because it was such shameful behavior that it was widely talked about. Almost everything is a real thing that happens every day, but the extent of it and where it occurs is not always easy to know. Do I see people every day have to suffer the indignity of other people's tasteless or outright hostile jokes? No, it is quite rare. Do I see people treated differently because they are young/old, not meeting an arbitrary standard of beauty, because they are not an extrovert who feels confident in expressing their opinion or uncertainty, because they lost a loved one or are pregnant or have a medical condition that competes with their ability to work 60 hours a week? Nearly every week I see this. But there's no Slack emojis for these things. I would rather see a broad standard of tolerance and dignity applied in the workplace but in the U.S. at least what we get are empty gestures towards certain groups and those groups go in and out of fashion with the media cycle.