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Do you know the expression 'no politics or religion'? That is because you can't create a nice and fun environment where people start clashing over these topics.

Do you know the expression 'no politics or religion'? That is because you can't create a nice and fun environment where people start clashing over these topics. You can discuss personal things, make jokes with your colleagues, etc. I think that is a very healthy environment. An environment where people have strong opinions on politics an religion is never a nice environment. Never. So I think it's fair that in a work environment, we decide "hey, we don't what that shit here".

darkerside 5y ago
People with strong opinions can still talk about them and get along. See every time interfaith community leaders collaborate on a food drive, charity event, etc. The key is to remember that not everyone agrees with your strong opinion, or even cares about that, and that shouldn't make them any less important to you as a person. And yes, these environments exist, I've worked in them.
- DebtDeflation 5y ago
  >See every time interfaith community leaders collaborate on a food drive, charity event, etc. I'm guessing they tend to focus their discussions on the food drive, charity event, or other task at hand. Not whether Jesus is the messiah or whether Isaac or Ishmael is the rightful heir to Abraham.
- christophilus 5y ago
  My favorite conversations are with those who disagree with me. Even better, if we’re smoking cigars around a campfire. My least favorite conversations are those that are regularly foisted upon me with no consideration of whether I even want to talk. Hint: at work, I want to write software, not listen to you talk (for the 50th time) about why you’re voting for Rick Santorum.
- moron4hire 5y ago
  > People with strong opinions can still talk about them and get along. While it is mathematically true that people can do this, the vast majority prove they choose not to nearly every single day. And once called out on it, it becomes another "tone policing" issue.
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MomoXenosaga 5y ago
This very much. It really comes down to "majority rule". If you don't follow the majority you will be bullied and quit. Woke is the enemy of diversity.
wpietri 5y ago
Oh? Why don't you list the topics you think of as political, ones that should be ruled as out of bounds? If you do that, you can pretty quickly see that what you are doing is practicing politics. I agree that the workplace shouldn't be filled with random, irrelevant contention. But the current crop of "no politics" rules aren't about that. They are about taking topics that are material to the workplace and preventing people from discussing them so as to favor the political interests of particular people and groups.

darkerside 5y ago

People with strong opinions can still talk about them and get along. See every time interfaith community leaders collaborate on a food drive, charity event, etc. The key is to remember that not everyone agrees with your strong opinion, or even cares about that, and that shouldn't make them any less important to you as a person. And yes, these environments exist, I've worked in them.

DebtDeflation 5y ago
>See every time interfaith community leaders collaborate on a food drive, charity event, etc. I'm guessing they tend to focus their discussions on the food drive, charity event, or other task at hand. Not whether Jesus is the messiah or whether Isaac or Ishmael is the rightful heir to Abraham.
christophilus 5y ago
My favorite conversations are with those who disagree with me. Even better, if we’re smoking cigars around a campfire. My least favorite conversations are those that are regularly foisted upon me with no consideration of whether I even want to talk. Hint: at work, I want to write software, not listen to you talk (for the 50th time) about why you’re voting for Rick Santorum.
moron4hire 5y ago
> People with strong opinions can still talk about them and get along. While it is mathematically true that people can do this, the vast majority prove they choose not to nearly every single day. And once called out on it, it becomes another "tone policing" issue.
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MomoXenosaga 5y ago

This very much. It really comes down to "majority rule". If you don't follow the majority you will be bullied and quit. Woke is the enemy of diversity.

wpietri 5y ago

Oh? Why don't you list the topics you think of as political, ones that should be ruled as out of bounds? If you do that, you can pretty quickly see that what you are doing is practicing politics. I agree that the workplace shouldn't be filled with random, irrelevant contention. But the current crop of "no politics" rules aren't about that. They are about taking topics that are material to the workplace and preventing people from discussing them so as to favor the political interests of particular people and groups.