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lmao, what a amazingly shitty hot take... Your "average" Linux distro isn't "buggy" as you claim. You sound like someone who either hasn't used Linux, or extr

by Valmar 5y ago

lmao, what a amazingly shitty hot take... Your "average" Linux distro isn't "buggy" as you claim. You sound like someone who either hasn't used Linux, or extrapolates their experiences from one specific distro, to all distros. I say this as someone who uses Linux daily. Specifically, Arch Linux, with testing repos enabled. The only bugs I run into are from using Git master versions of software that I'm interesting in testing.

willtim 5y ago
I've used Linux since it was first available in the mid 90s. I use it at work and on machines at home. It is almost certainly more reliable than Windows and MacOS as a server. However, the context here is desktop UI and laptops. Linux does exceptionally well considering there is almost no money at all going into this use case. But there are many bugs, sometimes due to hardware (e.g ACPI inconsistencies, even Thinkpads have issues) and because of software churn (few fix bugs in their spare time, it's more fun to create something new). If you wish to pretend that everything is perfect and there are no problems, then you aren't helping Linux either.
- MonaroVXR 5y ago
  > Linux does exceptionally well considering there is almost no money at all going into this use case. But there are many bugs, sometimes due to hardware (e.g ACPI inconsistencies, even Thinkpads have issues) and because of software churn (few fix bugs in their spare time, it's more fun to create something new). This is me figuring out my Optimus without Mux. My screen freezes when laptops (ASUS N76VB) resumes from sleep. (I don't know which state S1 - S4.) So I have "Fixed" the issue. But this was a problem of the HD Audio device driver? in the NVIDIA 740m? It was difficult to fix and I'm thinking about making a GitHub repository thing about it. I had this issue on Fedora, Ubuntu and Pop!_OS.
- Valmar 5y ago
  > I've used Linux since it was first available in the mid 90s. I use it at work and on machines at home. It is almost certainly more reliable than Windows and MacOS as a server. However, the context here is desktop UI and laptops. Desktop UI is where Linux tends to shine. Laptops... oh, those are a royal mess, usually. > Linux does exceptionally well considering there is almost no money at all going into this use case. No money at all? There are countless developers being paid to work on the Linux kernel. And on other pieces of software in userspace ~ usually by Red Hat. > But there are many bugs, sometimes due to hardware (e.g ACPI inconsistencies, even Thinkpads have issues) Hardware-related bugs are always an unpleasant can of fun... > and because of software churn (few fix bugs in their spare time, it's more fun to create something new). Bugs caused by software churn are also a thing. I personally haven't noticed anything major from many packages in the main repos. > If you wish to pretend that everything is perfect and there are no problems, then you aren't helping Linux either. Oops, I could have worded things slightly better, as in "not as "buggy"' instead of 'not "buggy"'. I sometimes miss words, only to realize later.
jpxw 5y ago
One word: audio
- diragon 5y ago
  One sentence: anything that might break. But I'm not saying this as blaming Linux about the brokedness. They're doing amazingly well for the huge amount of combinations of hardware and software they're supporting. Apple, on the other hand, has decided to seriously limit the amount of hardware they support, which makes it a much easier effort to support those ones.
coldtea 5y ago
>You sound like someone who either hasn't used Linux, or extrapolates their experiences from one specific distro, to all distros. Ironically you've just described the biggest problem with Linux, and the biggest non-solution often proposed "Problem with distro Y? Just use distro X".

by Valmar 5y ago

willtim 5y ago

I've used Linux since it was first available in the mid 90s. I use it at work and on machines at home. It is almost certainly more reliable than Windows and MacOS as a server. However, the context here is desktop UI and laptops. Linux does exceptionally well considering there is almost no money at all going into this use case. But there are many bugs, sometimes due to hardware (e.g ACPI inconsistencies, even Thinkpads have issues) and because of software churn (few fix bugs in their spare time, it's more fun to create something new). If you wish to pretend that everything is perfect and there are no problems, then you aren't helping Linux either.

MonaroVXR 5y ago
> Linux does exceptionally well considering there is almost no money at all going into this use case. But there are many bugs, sometimes due to hardware (e.g ACPI inconsistencies, even Thinkpads have issues) and because of software churn (few fix bugs in their spare time, it's more fun to create something new). This is me figuring out my Optimus without Mux. My screen freezes when laptops (ASUS N76VB) resumes from sleep. (I don't know which state S1 - S4.) So I have "Fixed" the issue. But this was a problem of the HD Audio device driver? in the NVIDIA 740m? It was difficult to fix and I'm thinking about making a GitHub repository thing about it. I had this issue on Fedora, Ubuntu and Pop!_OS.
Valmar 5y ago
> I've used Linux since it was first available in the mid 90s. I use it at work and on machines at home. It is almost certainly more reliable than Windows and MacOS as a server. However, the context here is desktop UI and laptops. Desktop UI is where Linux tends to shine. Laptops... oh, those are a royal mess, usually. > Linux does exceptionally well considering there is almost no money at all going into this use case. No money at all? There are countless developers being paid to work on the Linux kernel. And on other pieces of software in userspace ~ usually by Red Hat. > But there are many bugs, sometimes due to hardware (e.g ACPI inconsistencies, even Thinkpads have issues) Hardware-related bugs are always an unpleasant can of fun... > and because of software churn (few fix bugs in their spare time, it's more fun to create something new). Bugs caused by software churn are also a thing. I personally haven't noticed anything major from many packages in the main repos. > If you wish to pretend that everything is perfect and there are no problems, then you aren't helping Linux either. Oops, I could have worded things slightly better, as in "not as "buggy"' instead of 'not "buggy"'. I sometimes miss words, only to realize later.

jpxw 5y ago

One word: audio

diragon 5y ago
One sentence: anything that might break. But I'm not saying this as blaming Linux about the brokedness. They're doing amazingly well for the huge amount of combinations of hardware and software they're supporting. Apple, on the other hand, has decided to seriously limit the amount of hardware they support, which makes it a much easier effort to support those ones.

coldtea 5y ago

>You sound like someone who either hasn't used Linux, or extrapolates their experiences from one specific distro, to all distros. Ironically you've just described the biggest problem with Linux, and the biggest non-solution often proposed "Problem with distro Y? Just use distro X".